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與電影無關的影展回憶

2006-11-15 22:28迴響:16點閱:11907

還在唸大學的某一年秋天,我剛剛開始學德文,剛開始學任何東西總是滿腔熱情,於是那一年的金馬影展期間,我每天跑西門町等著看德語片。

 

當時我對德國文化的理解除了巴哈、歌德、和赫曼赫塞(他是我想學德文的主要理由)之外,幾乎一無所知。那一年影展正好進了幾部法斯賓達(Fassbiner)和荷索(Herzog)的片子,我在毫無心理準備的狀況下,把這些片子全看了。這兩個導演的片子充滿社會意識和政治批判,充滿壓抑、絕望或怪異的角色,我受到很大的震動──原來德國文化也有這樣困頓和黑暗的面貌。德國這個從二次戰後的廢墟中重新出發的社會,完全不是想像中那個理性平和的烏托邦。這些導演徹底的質疑了戰爭與社會秩序的假象。

 

金馬影展在冬天,總是非常冷,看完德國片我總是感到更冷,很昏亂,滿腦子都是想法卻又沒有頭緒,有時候完全不明白導演的意圖卻又感到莫名的震撼,我腦子裡舊有的世界秩序和理解被挑戰了,被瓦解了,一整個未知的世界在我面前揭露了,但是它沒有光明,只有更多渾不可解的謎團。我懷著這些渾沌的情緒坐公車回宿舍,感覺路程特別巔簸漫長。

 

在等影片的空檔,我有時會自己坐在西門町圓環的麥當勞混時間,有時就只是發呆。那些發呆的時刻也有某種昏亂的質地,因為不斷地有老先生走過來搭訕,或是有工作人員走過來趕人,我只好到處徘徊,這些片刻非常像藝術電影的荒謬情節。有幾次因為記錯場次,沒有德國片,就看了法國片,楚浮的片子是在這樣的狀況下看見的,帶著德國電影有稜有角的背景意識看法國片,那真是,難以言喻的夢幻。

 

當時我曾經嘗試著把看過的電影內容和感想寫下,不過這些紀錄都無法超越那種懵懂和迷惘,能夠記下來的其實非常少,過幾年,就發現那些筆記實在不知所云。

 

儘管如此,我非常喜愛那種被挑戰、被瓦解的混亂感,那是意外的文化碰撞,是激越而透徹的對話。正是經過這樣的狀態,舊的框架拆除了,新的視野出現了,我極目四望,那一片光影紛亂的銀幕之後,我原來不知道的世界靜靜地靠近我,向我展露了驚人的力量和深度。

 

 

 

p.s. 也許有人會問:「那麼你會徳語吧?」

答:「曾經會,不過現在完全不會了。」

我不知懊惱過多少次,如果當時學的是法語該有多好,唸傅科就更順了。

難道,這就是所謂的「終於悲哀的外國語」嗎?

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引用:http://blog.chinatimes.com/yufen/archive/2006/11/15/128193.html
2006-11-15 22:28作者:柯裕棻分類:媒體二三迴響:16點閱:11907

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re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

裕棻姊:
潛水很久,一直喜愛你的散文,常常不小心就帶給我力量。
先說聲謝謝。
不得不探頭的原因是,驚喜於和我相同之學習德文的動機。
很開心這樣的想法並不孤單。
@@(糟!跟主題沒啥關系)

不過,和妳不同的是我還沒學......(愧)
我哥為了鼓勵我還買了數本德文版的給我(哥,我會加油的!)
想偷偷問裕棻姊,要學到什麼程度才看得懂勒?

2006-12-16 16:17 vexygen

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

Joshua,
Yes, I'm jokin',
So no need to get too excited.

That's why I call Zhang a "Sony boy".
He wants an Oscar, for himself and for Sony, Clumbia Picture
taht is.
Good movies don't sale, Sony doesn't not want him to do those movies, Sony spend big bucks for him to come out with flashy stuff, more like those Japanese Anime. For American kid, maybe, maybe, as Sony's way of thinking, to 'get a HIT!"
There are many great directors, but not every one can be like Kurosawa, the word is 'consisdence'.
Spielberg did lousy movies too, but his "Private Ryan", "Schdler's List" were just great. Fincher has only one great one, "Seven".
If you can come out w just one great movie, I'll consider him a great director.
I remember years ago when I saw Victor Erice's "The Spirit of Beehive" in Rialto theater in South Pasadena, California. I was so moved I can not get up. Somehow, I never have any chance to see his other movies. But that impack is huge.
Zhang's early ones did the same impack for me.
It all has a lot to do w yourselfs.
If you got inspired, you got inspired...the experience is of course, life effecting..
Keep watching movies...

2006-11-18 08:25 Taipei Filmhouse

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

How can one ever soothe his/her restless heart
and utterly understand the years lived by?

....

"Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
And the hunter home from the hill."

~~requiem, Robert Louis Stevenson

2006-11-17 17:34 theo

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

taipei film house:

zhang yi mou? you must be joking. his latest films were really disappointing. those that you mentioned were his earlier works. to me his glorious days have long gone. i have no whatsoever expectation to his latest film 黃金甲.

the culprit is hollywood. these brilliant directors don't have to go to hollywood to make bad films, the moment they try to impress the westerners with so-called EXOTIC elements of the oriental culture or expensive special effects, they are doomed. look like chen kai ge, he's the best example.

i would rather wait for more surprises from young directors like Jia zhang ke.

by the way herzog still moves and intrigue me with his documentaries, and the subjects of his works. as for wenders, sometimes when the mood is right i really enjoy his way of telling a story, the magical touch of slowness, though i must admit i much prefer his earlier films.

2006-11-17 16:36 joshua

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

謝謝大家的辛酸分享,我這學期剛修哲學,是詮釋學,考試分數不高相當懊惱,好像懂又好像不懂,我覺得高達美說的話好像都很像,可是其實是在做比較,哎,該怎麼讀懂呢?

2006-11-16 23:15 Hsinyi

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

Oh! YES! I saw Tin Drum and thought "Schlondorff was THE greatest director in the world." too.
but, gosh, I was only 15 or so at that time.....
little did I know about the world....
(how was I allowed to see that film anyway? It should have been rated R.)

Hey Naomi, Danke shoen! (我竟然還讀得懂你的留言也是驚人,看來我學到的多於我自己所理解)

2006-11-16 21:20 YF

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

是啊,那年我為了法斯賓達的"亞歷山大廣場",幾乎天天一放學就往
戲院跑,周末還得編理由出門,不過倒不以為苦,只覺得很幸福呢!

2006-11-16 16:02 懶懶貓

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

When I first saw "Tin Drum' and "Das Boot", it was pretty amazing.
Fassbinder died at the age of 37 in 82, only saw his "The Marriage of Maria Braun", not my pick of best movie of the year, and I soon forget about him.
After I saw "The Tin Drum", I thought Schlondorff was THE greatest director in the world. After that I was a bit disappointed on "Circle of Deceit", big disappointment over " Swann in Love". Schlondorff came to America(Hollywood, that is) and did "Death of A Salesman", "Handmaids Tail", "Voyager", and very disappointing "Palmetto" (Ahh, the beautiful Elisabeth Shue).
Herzog was way overrated with "Fitzcaraodo", and "Where the Green Ants Dream" was a 'sleepy' movie.
Wenders is very interesting, his "Million Dollar Hotel" was a great movie.
He also came to America, where he made one of the worse movie of German directors of all time... "The End of Violence"( I have a poster of this movie, a reminder for me that a great director CAN made a really bad movie).
I like Wenders because of his "Million $ Hotel", and the ambitious "Until the End of the World".
"Hammett"...OK, "Paris, Texas"...not bad. "Buena Vista Social Club"...well, it's not a feature.
Wolfgang Petersen pretty much loose his root after "Das Boot"
watch the new and sunk "Poseidon".
It's a shame how Hollywood money corrupted a great director.
Tom Tykwer is the new German 'hope', his "Wintersleepers" was very original, and "Princes and the Worrior" is a great movie.
But I would pick "Million dollar Hotel" as my THE best German director American movie( produced by, whatta you know, Mel Gibson).
German may produced Leica, BMW, M-Benz, or phlosophers, film directors, but after I saw most of Zhan Yi-mo films, I would say, this guy is my kind of director.
His "Not One Less" is a GREAT movie, it looked very simple(to make) but I know it's actually complecated and differcult to make.
Second best one, "The Story of Qiu Ju" , again, looked simple, but very complex, amazing story. A bit of Kurosawa touch.
Now he's a Sony kid.

2006-11-16 13:13 Taipei Film House

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

秋天很容易就成為一個感傷的季節。

2006-11-16 12:28 畢業生

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

看電影學語言是不是有效,
我認為對於初學者效果不大,
先學好正規的語法比較有益處。

至於熟悉一種語言之後再藉著電影增加對於那個語言文化的理解,
我認為效果還是有限,
因為電影的場景原不是為了學習語言的人設計,
歐洲的電影流行很多片斷的鏡頭,
這樣學習也可能得到支離破碎的印象。

要麼有機會去德國,
要麼去大學修幾年的課程。

2006-11-16 11:54 畢業生

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

es ist sehr schön Dich zu lesen. Ich erinne mich noch die Zeit

an der Fu-Jen Uni. Du warst in unsere Klasse als Gast, aber

fleißiger und multiger als wir.

Schöne Grüße aus Deutschland

2006-11-16 05:10 Naomi

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

嗚呼哀哉 正是
學術這條路 坦白說 還真不是人走的........
(前兩天不剛有一位國內的教授過勞死的消息?)

學術的辛酸我想裕棻姐一定也頗有感受
(否則不會寫出像 "行路難" 這般令所有留學生痛哭流涕的文章)

不過話說回來 像這些 "偉大的哲學家們" 的深奧思想
連他們本國人研究起來都有點上不了手
更別說外國人了.........

所以我很佩服那些來歐洲唸哲學的人
至少就畢業的速度這一點來說
我不是唸哲學的 都已經很龜速了
更何況他們了...........


2006-11-16 01:34 龜速工作者

re: 與電影無關的影展回憶

對呀,聽說卡瑞的片子連燒掉的畫面都完整呈現了。
真是妙。
我跟卡瑞無緣,時間完全對不上,超想看安那其戀人,
結果還是必須把票送人。

2006-11-16 00:12 YF

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是囉!
我會說中文(國語、普通話、whatever),
但很多時候也讀不懂教授的話,
不過可能老師在講我都沒有在聽。

不過今年影展會法文的還不錯,
卡瑞幾部片的字幕跟著黑白影像一起浮水印化了。

2006-11-16 00:06 才剛跑輸給烏龜的兔崽子

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龜速同學,
原來你在法國。
你這留言,真是一語道盡了搞學術的辛酸呢。
這會傷許多人的心。

是呀,那時我學了德語之後,還是搞不懂海德格。。。Orz

2006-11-15 23:58 YF

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裕棻姐 大半偉大的哲學家都是德國人
會德語豈不更好?

再說 會法語也不見得就能更懂傅科
誠然許多留法的都來搞傅科的東西
但真正搞懂及學的好的
就我在這裡遇過或所知道的人來看
似乎不多哩........

2006-11-15 23:38 龜速工作者

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