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為什麼是蔡英文?

2008-04-19 03:41迴響:57點閱:14751

 紅樓二尤中一位俠客型的人物柳湘蓮形容寧國府,「你們東府裡,除了那兩個石頭獅子乾淨,只怕連貓兒狗兒都不乾淨!」一句話逼死心儀柳湘蓮的尤三姐。

 這句話也可以拿來形容民進黨,執政八年,黨內菁英上上下下多少都拿到一些好處,只要不扯出大弊端,民眾都很健忘,不會太計較,問題出在,這幾年來,民進黨已發展出黑幫的封口文化,敢批評的人,不是被罵忘恩負義,就是天下烏鴉一般黑,只要抬出共犯結構這頂大帽子,改革就沒有下文,大家都看到,段宜康開了檢討第一槍後,就不見下文。

 民進黨的黑幫文化又和民進黨的派系恩怨環環相扣,如果說扁是民進黨的頭號罪人,扁謝之爭就是第二個讓民進黨萬劫不復的主因,任何改革只要碰到扁謝之爭就走樣,任何扁新蘇可能支持的人,謝長廷系統一定集結對抗,這樣的氣氛讓中生代退卻,農委會主委蘇嘉全就是不想捲入權鬥,打了退堂鼓。

 這個背景下就可以理解,最後為何是蔡英文出線,第一、擔任陸委會主委、行政院副院長,不是民進黨給蔡英文好處,是蔡英文幫民進黨加分;第二、蔡英文和民進黨淵源不深,因此恩怨也不深。但說她完全不懂民進黨,又太低估她了,蔡英文昨日單槍匹馬去辦理參選記,顯然已開始了解民進黨的「眉角」,要改革民進黨,她不能第一步就掉進派系的深淵。

 坦白說,在民進黨權力結構中,女人向來是附庸(國民黨其實也好不到那裡去),這一點恐怕副總統呂秀蓮也會有同感,葉菊蘭曾是呼聲甚高的副總統候選人,最後還是被犧牲,這次要不是山窮水盡,也不會去找蔡英文;但民進黨現在需要的又是女性,不要說過去幾年贏得的女性選票,這次都跑光了,蔡英文處理權力的女性風格,可能也是讓民進黨菁英放心的原因。
 
 現在已重返學界的林芳玫,曾敏銳的觀察到,不少婦運領袖壓抑自己的權力欲,被壓抑的權力欲以乖張的方式再現;不過,我觀察到,當有一定職務權力時,很多能幹女性處理權力,則是介於男性與林芳玫形容的女性主義者中間,對她們來說,權力是手段而不是目的,這是女人的務實之處,有了權力就是要完成一些事,權力是為了責任而存在。
 
 蔡英文就有這樣的風格,她擔任陸委會主委及行政院副院長時,都相當強勢,但是像她這樣說退就退,沒有一點閒言閒語的,在政壇是異數,更不用說滿是權力動物的民進黨了。  找她的人都不諱言,蔡英文應在過渡階段幫民進黨一個忙,換作是其他的男性,民進黨菁英敢這麼放心,相信時間到了,權力的魔戒一定會被歸還嗎?

 更有趣的是,即使是請出蔡英文的民進黨青壯派,現階段都先將蔡英文視為是有吸引力的「品牌」,不知是對蔡英文沒信心,還是對民進黨沒信心。

 像許多女人,蔡英文也低估了自己的影響力,她認為自己不是民進黨重新起步的關鍵,她大概不知道,如果蔡同榮當選,民進黨勢必不可能檢討這幾年的深綠機會主義者路線,那將是壓跨民進黨改革派的最後一根稻草。

 我最近還聽到一種震撼療法,那就是讓深綠把持民進黨中央也好,明年縣市長再大敗一次,深綠路線就可徹底跨台,屆時民進黨就可不費功夫轉型,我不太同意這種治療方式,以台灣社會變化之快,民進黨大概禁不起兩年的淩遲,那時可能已經「亡黨」了。

 蔡英文確實是民進黨最後的機會,我不知道民進黨黨員是否會支持她,但我相信,如果蔡英文當上黨主席,由女性帶領尋找聖杯的旅程,應該會有許多未知的樂趣。

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 

 

 
 


 
 

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回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

辜老今天與友人意志堅定的出來開記者會,表達參選的決心,個人看了覺得很高興也很感動,也許大多數的民眾會認為,都老摳摳了還出來亂,但辜老跟蔡英文相比,我寧可選擇辜老啊!

我實在看不出來蔡英文到底好在那邊,更看不出來她到底優秀在那裡,她當過高官也當過立委,有什麼讓人覺得有好的表現呢?但辜老對台灣對民進黨的忠心,雖然是有點愚忠的成份在內,但起碼我知道這個人的本性,但蔡英文呢?妳一直都在體制內核心裡,妳有機會建言改革,但妳做了嗎?根本沒做,現在又要出來領導黨,妳所謂的使命感,只是被別人用勸的才出來,這是真的有使命感嗎?況且入黨才多久,也沒有什麼重大表現,這樣就可以當黨主席,我看我們民進黨真的可以回家吃自己了.

2008-04-25 12:22 牛奶

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

看到馬英九被判無罪真諷刺,一場官司,我們民進黨沒佔到便宜,反而激起藍軍的大團結,更重要的是讓原本溫室裡的馬英九,一夕之間成長了,而且還下鄉long stay,學會了如何放下身段,啊!真是被侯寬仁給害慘了.

真的希望蔡董能當我們的主席,至於蔡英文,我看就不必了,拜託!富家女一個,過去也是喝國民黨奶水的,黨齡才幾年啊!憑什麼當黨主席呢?還有她能代表改革與清流嗎?這八年她在扁政府裡,當的都是重要職位,陸委會,副院長,一個比一個大,結果呢?兩個字,保守,根本不敢與對岸談,這樣的人,可拉起民進黨嗎?

蔡董人老心不老,全身充滿鬥志,對於他的深綠路線,其實我不是全然贊成,但至少我看到他忠黨愛黨的,對於蔡英文,我就是沒信心,我就不相信她會有什麼大刀改革的決心與勇氣,民進黨現在裡面一堆人有案子,光是這點,就夠她處理了,其他各派系的問題呢?啊!等著看囉!我知道很多網友對她還有期待,那我們就看看吧!看她能變出什麼把戲喔!

2008-04-25 00:37 超人

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

to smswjj

It seems all ministers were from KMT's think
tank etc., isn't it a party-ruled? especially
legislative branch in the future will be
undoubtedly subsumed to party's will, and
Ma just a puppet, bureaucratic president

Maybe Ma has good intention, i.e. party should
have no role in the government, but
miscalculated? KMT is an old beast, you must
know that?

Dr. T


2008-04-24 05:17 Dr. T

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

訂正:
...由國會最大黨組閣...
(誤輸入為"由國會最大野黨組閣")

2008-04-23 20:12 什麼是玩政治

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

個人為什麼呼籲KMT要"黨政分離"?

我們不是"內閣制"國家(他的行政權服膺於立法權,基本上由國會最大野黨組閣,不致發生大的"違反民主原則"的情形),我們的憲政制度則是"半總統制"(個人認比較接近法國的"雙首長制"),但也是雙首長制的法國,在"朝小野大"時(總統所屬的政黨在國民議會無法形成"多數黨"或"多數聯盟"),會知道要"共治",在"一致性政府"時(雖然這個語詞比較適合用在總統制國家_即總統所屬的政黨在國會也是多數黨),他們也不會"以黨領政"(應該說根本沒有這樣的可能)_也就是總統的手"既伸入內閣"(雖然推出"擋箭牌閣揆"現象仍受政治學者的詬病,但他們在"總統與總理的分權"上,相對於我們是"比較明確的")還要藉"控制黨而將手伸入國會".


如果KMT不能"黨政分離",則在我們這種"不穩定的憲政制度"下(可以總統制與內閣制的搖擺_過去當"小蔣"任行政院長時可以說成傾向內閣制,當"小蔣"任總統時則又說成傾向總統制),又在已經"一黨獨大"(個人甚至認520後將沒有"有效制衡"的反對黨)的情況下,如何寄望KMT在一黨獨大時的"自我監督"的最高民主表現?

*千萬千萬不要"既將手深入並抓住內閣,又要藉控制黨而又將手伸入國會"啊!(切記"不知民主為何物"的對岸的"黨指揮槍,槍桿子出政權_政受制於軍,軍受制於黨,我們跟他們不同的一個重要價值"民主與法制")

2008-04-23 20:08 什麼是玩政治

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

When everything failed, like DPP now, it's the time
to resuscitate with a totally different method and
thinking, can't you see no meaningful candidate
willing to run the party? at least we should give
the benefit of the doubt to Ms. Tsai for now.

Honestly, I think DPP's problem is quite straight
forward: CORRUPTION! especially CRONYISM,
this is why I advocate a fierce shake-up, self-
criticism and purge from within, just like power
struggles of Communist, heads must be rolled!
too bad DPP are bunch of sissy and hypocrite!
when its top brasses admonished, everyone
shutter, unbelievable!

Dr. T

2008-04-23 15:36 Dr. T

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

tmd:你的想法是對的,勇於承擔固然重要,我只怕蔡英文如果到最後也陣亡了,那民進黨可能就真正要下台一鞠躬了,這個機會大嗎?憑良心說,這不是嘗試問題,可能性真的真的...很大啦!不管如何,我們大家一起給她加加油喔!

2008-04-23 14:11 小太陽

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

蔡英文真的很適合啊.

管他什麼派系啊. 大老啊. 頭痛的牙齒痛的...

制定遊戲規則後, 強力執行, 不就是這樣嗎?

蔡英文應該來幫民進黨裡面還有前途的中生代來堅壁清野, 不是嗎?

這樣老娼和小丑也才沒有辦法倚老賣老, 瓜分愈來愈少的資源, 繼續扭曲下去, 不是嗎?

重點就在於誰能制定新的遊戲規則, 不是嗎? 兩次大選被打得鼻青臉腫, 民意就是要改革, 現在來好好的全盤改, 用力改, 難道不好嗎? 現在不改革, 又要等到什麼時候, 等到阿扁又聲勢再起嗎?

除了蔡英文以外, 其他的候選人又有什麼改革的可能性與期待性?

不要忘了, 蔡英文有學者的執著, 仍帶有浪滿的理想性格, 別管她背後有什麼其他的影響力啦, 誰都難免會受影響的, 不是嗎? 差別只在於動機是否單純, 是否太過偏頗? 反正改就對了. 民進黨既然早就已經偏離了理想, 就來重新打造一個具有理想的政黨吧..

如果分裂是讓民進黨變得更好的必經之路, 那也是別無選擇, 硬著頭皮也要上的事, 不對嗎?

放棄理想的人就讓他們去另組政黨, 或自我放逐吧..


2008-04-23 13:22 tmd

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

我想蔡英文應該萬萬沒有想到,辜老與蔡同榮最後還是不願協調,就是要辯論初選,就是要投票,也許這對蔡女士來說,沒什麼好怕的,不過這代表著,就算蔡當選,往後的主席生活,會是關關難過,她真能像馬英九一樣,凡事都能關關過嗎?

常聽人說,事在人為,只要有信心,肯努力,鐵杵也能磨成繡花針的,但對蔡英文而言,我倒認為,她很難過關,很難把民進黨帶出泥沼困局,因為雖然蔡英文很優秀,但她的位置放不對啊!

蔡英文是個很好的幕僚,當參謀軍師很好,但當主官,她沒有格與魅力,有些網友提到她壓不住黨內深綠的,我覺得這種說法非常正確,也許有人會認為,壓不住難道就不改革嗎?這種說法表面上是理直氣壯,但實際上是過於浪漫的,任何一位領袖人物,有沒有能力還是其次,第一件要務,就是一定要有魅力,而對於蔡女士來說,他只有知名度,沒有魅力的,而且還有更重要的是,她完全沒真正經過人民選舉過,對民進黨而言,毫無戰功,是問,這樣的人,真正的大頭或資深黨員,誰會服她呢?

感覺上民進黨現在是生病亂投醫,沒人有當擔,其實中生代裡任何一位出來選,都比蔡英文來的強,蔡英文這種臨危受命的出來,真的只是好看,馬上就容易被戳破了,這不是對她沒信心,而是她從政以來的作為,從李登輝的兩國論,到民進黨執政所當過的政務官,蔡的所作所為都是非常保守的,現在忽然要扛改革大旗,能成功嗎?聽說蔡一直不願出來,最後是李遠哲長談才打動她的心,想想李遠哲的話,現在還能信嗎?文人就是文人,蔡英文還是跳入政治泥沼裡,只有祝福她了.

2008-04-23 06:27 小太陽

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

It is not ambition. It is "listened to heart of people". That's all. People (green or blue or black or white or purpole or red) want to live peacefully and prosperously. People don't want "tension and hatred". They don't care KMT or DPP or BSR or WSR in power, they will support the government if they know their kids' future is secured, peaceful, and prosperous. If DPP still doesn't understand this simple rule, DPP will be like Communist party in Japan or US. Do you know Japan and US do have Communist party? Their talks and acts are so much like DPP today, now they are jokes of the democracy in these countries. Wake up, green country fewllows, slow down, soften up, think rationally.

看看國民黨第一波名單,懂的人就知道他們的"野心",四平八穩面面俱到,就是準備永遠執政

2008-04-22 19:15 Jack

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

2004年總統大選,我們拿六百多,今年呢?五百多,以後呢?還能拿多少?

兩千年宋仔拿四百多萬,前年選市長,拿五萬而已,親愛的綠色朋友們,我們大家應該覺醒點,認清現在台灣以及世界有多大的轉變,如果我們還以為544萬是我們的基本盤,永遠不會跑票,如果我們還是固步自封,不求變通改變,我想,每次的選舉,國民黨的票可能不會多,但我們的票,只會越來越少,因為,投也是白投的啊!

看看國民黨第一波名單,懂的人就知道他們的野心,四平八穩面面俱到,就是準備永遠執政,而我們到現在派系都還沒擺平,還是一團亂,人家早就騎著馬拼命跑,我們還在原地踏步,大家想想看,如果國民黨往後執政沒有預期好,那人民,你認為百姓肯再給民進黨一次機會,再讓我們執政嗎?看看民進黨八年執政下來的情形,嚇都嚇死了,還會讓我們再回來嗎?所以我們民進黨真該快點靜下來想想何去何從吧!是否還要走極端深綠,不管中道力量,那些老一輩的從政同志是否該退下去了,這樣拖拖拉拉下去,只會讓人民失望,要再回頭,可能要不知多少年了.

2008-04-22 11:46 黨員

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

SV,

Did you actually join these activities yourself before 3/22? There were much less young people than 2004 or 2000. What you said below are most among 50-70 age group people. And 60+% DPP supporters' education level is high school or below. These groups will diminish very fast especially if economics get improved fast in next 4 years. If Ma shifts his concentration toward South more and more, DPP will be compressed very hard. Do you remember the acceptance rate of Ma was 86% nationwide after election? If DPP just wait for KMT to corrupt and lose by itself, DPP will be in big surprise four years later. I am really worried about people can read English on Blogs have this kind of passive mentality. Taiwan does need an aggressive, active, creative, and long term perspective DPP. Wake up, don't give up on yourself.
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這些DPP的本質有其存在必要與代表性(544萬). "迷信神話","擁抱鄉村農工階層","盲目仇中","執同伐異組織"自有其生存之市場,受高等教育知識份子是無法理解其心理, 也無法漠視他們的存
在.

2008-04-22 08:16 Jack

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

to Dr.T

關於你提到追訴貪腐集團尤其扁及其家族的問題,我曾公開同意一位網友"赦免扁"(只對扁一人)的提議,主要是基於不要步入"過去韓國,總統一上任就清算前任總統"這條予人不進步的印象的路,以及寬恕是難得的"價值"(個人在追求廢除死刑的活動經歷中對此感受深刻),還有其他"未便說出"的"個人認為的理由".
雖然現在覺得你講的樹立典範的問題也的確很重要!

2008-04-21 23:31 什麼是玩政治

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

"本土","媚日","抗中",與"台獨"有什麼不好? 還有544萬人支持.
"貪腐"? --不執政就沒有貪腐問題了,不是嗎?
我們在等KMT上台後的貪腐, 四年後又換我們了.誰記得四年前的事呀? 選民是非常非常健忘的. 所以DPP還是會繼續堅持"本土","媚日","抗中",與"台獨"

2008-04-21 20:21 123

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

Jack,
論點非常正確, 但,
"本土","媚日","抗中",與"台獨"不正是DPP的本質嗎?改了它和KMT有何不同? 蔡英文只能將它包裝的比較不強勢, 但中心思想是不可能改變,外人也不必強求.
這些DPP的本質有其存在必要與代表性(544萬). "迷信神話","擁抱鄉村農工階層","盲目仇中","執同伐異組織"自有其生存之市場,受高等教育知識份子是無法理解其心理, 也無法漠視他們的存在.

2008-04-21 20:03 sv

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to smswjj

Thanks for your compliments.
Tsai 's experiences and records are really
impressive,
she turns his well-received educations into
practical uses, drafters of many codes
regarding cross-strait relations, Macao and
Hongkong, not to mention numerous well-written
and highly regarded academic reports overseas.

DPP is in total disarray, she will not lead this
bunch of riffraff and parasites unless for a
higher purpose.

What is "experience?":
A Process and Feeling of Failure, that's all!
yet some half-witted DPP still have the gall to
talk about it, a loser is a loser, nobody cares.

I hope our justice branch can prosecute and
deliver the punishments to the fullest of this
corrupted group, especially Chen and Family,
set and example!

Dr. T

2008-04-21 07:12 Dr. T

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

Even God can not save DPP if DPP can not do the following:

1. Be honest with majority of Taiwan residence. Don't just keep telling myth to please radical minorty.

2. Have to be able to movtivate and attract well educated techinal professionals. Do you notice all well educated technical professionals who can build the countries are on KMT side include these best educated Taiwaneses grew up from Southern Taiwan villages? Most DPP leaders are lip services professionals such as Politics or Law. Why? Because Scientists and Engineers are harder to cheat?

3. Have to face China the same way as Japan and US do at least. Verbally abusing Chineses or humiliating Chineses in Taiwan won't make Chineses feel any worse about DPP but it grossed out nice and honest Taiwaneses on the side line. Nobody is stupid and most Taiwaneses know the truth and follow the same good and traditional Chinese principles. They all do know their ancestors did come from China.

4. Stay away from these rascals. They may be loyal and useful but they scares away the educated and good people.

Rational and objective people told me they don't feel afraid to join Blue activities, sometimes they feel silly but nothing scary. When they attend Green activities, they feel scared quite often with people swearing with crazy eyes around them. It is not right to have the whole party kidnapped by radicals or rascals. Taiwan does need rational and clean parties to compete for the best interest of every one living on the same island.

DPP from top to the bottom always like dirty or strong words to abuse opponents. They won all verbal fights but they lost all elections recetly. "Win the battles but lose the wars." Normal people are tired of these violence and they know Ma might not be the best leaders but they like his attitutes. Ma makes people relaxed. DDP makes people tensed and scared. This is DPP's fatal problem DPP. Taiwanese is feeling kind of people. Low class behavior and living in the miserable past made up by themself makes voters distrust this kind of group.

Just replay DPP's big events' tapes before the election and ask yourself honestly, do you want your own daughters to marry these people swearing or lying on the stage?

If Tsai can not change DPP's culture, she is just another crying loser except she has nice smile and elegant clothing.

2008-04-21 02:24 Jack

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?

It probably is the best to have Lee Wen-Chung running. Taiwanese deep in mind doesn't like rich people such as Ms. Tsai. Lee is more honest than Tsai. Tsai can work with Lee DH and Chen SB ignoring all lies around her makes people wondering what is her real principle. Especially for a people got such good eduction in free world for so long, how could she stand it and play around?

The latest example is she criticized Ma's green card just like uneducated people who never left Taiwan. We all know very clearly Ma's Green card is valid in US Immigration agency's file becasue it wasn't activated. Once it gets activated such as Ma uses it when he enters US. His green card would be taken away at Custom inspection wondow. He would be asked to leave US to reapply it. That is law. Tsai majored in law but she followed the manipulation of the first half of the fact to mislead uneducated people. It is shameful.

Since she was also educated in England so she must know ALL exciled leaders from European or Asian countries could enter England or US without passwport and get special visa as Political refugees. So is Chen SB or Ma if they decide to sell Taiwan and flee away. It has been this way for generations and it is convention for these Kings or Presidents. But she danced to DPP Sell-Taiwan slogans without having guts to wake up these DPP radicals. This wastes time and energy, this is one of major reason DPP lost. DPP should run the election by pursuing Economics issues. She is no different than all other DPP politicians, she just follows DPP majority. I have a long time DPP friend told me he is aftaid of these radicals now, they threaten people who tells the truth or who wants to work with rational KMTs. It is too far and to o much. Tsai is not going to save DPP. She will bring down DPP more gracefully or in style. That's all. Wake upp, real DPPers, leave and form a new party. DPP is a dirty word among young and rational people, it means a group of wimpy people controlled by radicals.

2008-04-20 23:37 Jack

回應: 為什麼是蔡英文?


阿扁下臺之後會另組一個新的政黨啦..

阿扁沒有舞台會受不了的...
他的同志現在要清算他...
他就來玩躲貓貓...
如果他真的虛心接受黨內同志批評,
就會出席讓大家罵一罵啦...

可是他已經打好別的算盤了...
他對深綠群眾還是很有號召力,
就乾脆來個一刀兩斷,
讓民進黨選擇走中間路線的人最後變成四不像.
反正他已經當過總統, 在民進黨內也沒有搞頭了,
就來吸納深綠選民,讓自己成為新的政黨領袖.

他當新的政黨領袖, 也是會讓小馬忌憚啊,
只要集結志同道合的人, 在縣市長選舉搶攻地盤,
就能很快建立自己的山頭不是嗎?

民進黨的人根本不知道他心裡在打什麼算盤,
那些和阿扁同梯的想藉內部鬥爭來壯大自己的地位,
可是阿扁根本就不在乎,
因為, 他們和阿扁根本就不在同一個戰場上...
又被他耍了..

阿扁非常滑頭的啦..
不用費心去檢討阿扁啦...
先想想怎麼預防他日後回來挖牆腳才對啦..
笨笨的一群政客....


2008-04-20 22:30 diamond

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明天國民黨就要發佈第一波人事,而我們民進黨到現在還是有許多問題無法解絕,想想真是有點諷刺,都已經一無所有,現在還有人談什麼派系問題排藍問題啊!火球蘇講的一點也沒錯,老百姓那管你們民進黨這些問題啊!就該怎樣就怎樣嘛!廉政委員會是做什麼用的,該開除開處理的有做嗎?

可以感覺的出來,偏綠或中間的民眾,會認為也許蔡英文會讓民進黨有希望些,但我必須很老實的說,沒用的,蔡英文如果要讓人耳目一新,就需要砍人,但幫她領表還有最支持她的就是阿扁,高志鵬這類有案的人,她能砍得下去嗎?我大膽的說一聲,阿扁卸任後,他應該會主動退出民進黨,就算是送給新主席上任一份大禮,但其他人呢?謝長廷,呂秀蓮,游錫昆...一大推雖還沒有最終判罪,但已經被起訴還具體求刑的人,蔡要如何處理?答案就是,沒辦法處理啊!一句話,靜待司法調查,想想這樣民進黨還有救嗎?

學問很好,歡說理的蔡英文,民進黨這些山頭會服他嗎?昨天檢討會有人談到華人兩個字,就馬上引起騷動,蔡英文壓的住基本教義派的嗎?我想民進黨分裂,應該是可遇見的,最後我只想說,最自私的就是中生代,你們一樣吃香喝辣,執政時,政有問題時只敢小聲講,現在慘敗又搞出什麼蔡英文這種毫無政黨經驗的人來當擋箭牌,你們這些人真是夠了,民進黨不會再有機會了.

2008-04-20 21:28 烏龜
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