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馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

2007-04-22 02:57迴響:85點閱:12855

馬加爵,198154出生,來自廣西農村,雲南大學生化學院生物技術專業2000級學生,大四那年畢業之前,他用斧頭錘殺四名室友與同學,然後將屍體藏進衣櫃。馬加爵最後的下場是被槍決。槍決那天,是二零零四年六月的某一天,那時候同學都要畢業。

趙承熙,19841月出生在南韓,1992年小學3年級時隨父母移居美國,就讀維吉尼亞理工學院英文系,大四那年畢業之前,他用槍枝連殺三十二名師長與同學,一共發射子彈兩百枚。最後趙承熙以同樣那把槍,飲彈自盡。自殺那天,是二零零七年四月的某一天,再過不久同學都要拿到學位。

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維吉尼亞州的南韓學生殺人案令我想起:雲南大學貧困生的連環殺人案件。

馬加爵,從廣西的農村第一次來到昆明市的雲南大學讀書,一天以兩個饅頭度日,過年甚至沒有錢坐最低等的火車車廂回家,長期受到同學的嘲弄形成反社會性格。在即將拿到學位的過年前夕,他用斧頭砍殺了室友與同學,之後逃亡廣西街頭,隱沒在菜場與垃圾堆裡面,最後馬加爵在乞丐群中被發現,披頭散髮渾身是泥。他拒絕任何免費律師的辯護,直接被處決。

為什麼都沒有人問為什麼?兩種截然不同的環境卻招致一樣的結果。
馬加爵事件震驚了全中國,各方面討論包括急速擴大的貧富差距、農村人口進入城市的不適應性、貧困生的社會心理處境,一一浮上檯面。

趙承熙的仇恨筆記上,寫滿了「有錢人的孩子」、「放蕩」以及「騙子」等詞句。
馬加爵則是在處決之前的獄中寫了一首詩,說明了關於貧富與歧視的一切。

"you caused me to do this."
在維吉尼亞州的南韓學生這麼說,我想雲南大學的馬加爵也會這麼說。 (待續)


還沒有時間深入分析,先附上一些延伸連結:

1. 馬加爵在監獄中穿上了他這一生中穿過的最好的衣服——囚服。
他說:「這是我穿過的最好的衣服。」

2. 馬加爵在獄中寫的詩

3. 馬加爵供出殺人的真正原因 拒絕律師為其辯護

4. 馬加爵案引發思考:貧困學生需走出心理困境

5. 誰是馬加爵現象的幕後黑手?——中共

(quote)
根據北京青少年發展基金會所做的調查,北京高校中,月生活費不足200元的大學生可視為貧困大學生,不足100元的為特困生。按照這一標準,貧困生目前佔北京高校在校生總數的15%以上。

貧富差距在宿舍這個小環境裏體現得淋漓盡致。來自福建的盧林就將其宿捨得7個人劃分為四個階層:實現小康生活的(兩位同學的父親都是老闆),溫飽向小康邁進的(三位同學來自普通知識分子家庭),解決了溫飽問題的(一位同學來自條件還過得去的農村家庭),而他自己則是"在饑餓和溫飽線上掙扎的人"

城市生活也給貧困生以衝擊。貧困大學生多數來自農村,他們進入大學首先要接受的是城市社會化過程。但城市本身和城市學生給了他們疏離感。"沒錢我可以通過家教來補。但農村和城市巨大的文化差異,始終讓我感到孤獨。我如何用力也無法融入。"一位農村學生真誠地對記者說。

時間流轉到1990年代後期,校園風景變得化很大:有人開著私家車上課,有人卻僅靠兩個饅頭度日。而校園裏城市學生和農村學生的隔閡也更多地顯現出來。

 

911到趙承熙

http://pots.tw/node/1425

 

二十一世紀的仇恨、精神疾患,與一個人的恐怖主義

http://pots.tw/node/1427

 

我們所居住的世界充滿了人類自己畫出來的邊界

http://blog.yam.com/sabin/article/9657051

 

我們需要一場思想的不流血革命

http://blog.yam.com/sabin/article/9664260

 

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2007-04-22 02:57作者:彤雅立分類:我城,她城迴響:85點閱:12855

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re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

To 無責任館長,

I would not be surprised if 趙承熙 had never held a job (who would hire him?). And I believe he used to be an engineering major and it apparently didn't work out.

I've been looking for possible clues to why he seemed to have turned from merely suicidal to murderous. Below is an exerpt from a newspaper article on 趙承熙 (http://www.planetblacksburg.com/2007/04/killer_came_from_virginia_high_school_that_has_pro.php). According to his former suitemate, who might have been the closest thing to a friend that he had, 趙承熙 "shut down" after he was taken away for being suicidal. Could that be a turning point? What do you think?

Cho’s reticent nature defined his interactions in Blacksburg as well. His former suitemate, junior Business Management major Andy Koch, recalled: “He was quiet, shy. We tried to do stuff with him in the beginning of the year, but things just got weirder and weirder.”

By “weirder,” Koch explained that he and his friends took Cho to a party during the first month of school. He kept telling them he had “an imaginary girlfriend.”

In addition, there were incidents of Cho “stalking girls,” Koch said. Authorities had to step in during those occurrences, although it’s not entirely clear how they were dealt with.

Koch recalled most interaction with him was in the suite’s common room.

“He spent time in the common room ... there was one time he wrote ‘dark’ lyrics to a Nirvana song on the walls and we reported that because we didn’t want to get in trouble for that.”

Koch declined to reveal those lyrics.

He said he and his friends saw him around campus a few times after they moved out of Cochrane; the most recent encounter was this past Sunday and Cho did not say a word.

“There was one instance he said he was going to commit suicide and we reported that and they took him away. It was at that point he shut down,” Koch said.

Cho then ignored all attempts Koch made to talk to him, and Koch and his friends, in turn, began ignoring him too.

“After I heard I knew him, I was in shock,” Koch said. “I didn’t think he’d do something like that.”

2007-04-26 14:49 Patrick

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

Dr. T,

Where exactly did you get the following "facts" from?

1. "U.S. laws prohibit transfering of Chou's medical records to
any other insititutions (FBI, police dept etc), this is why he
can buy guns and ammo."

2. "Chou ... occassionally called 'escort service' for his need."

3. "His sister ... currently works as a high official in
U.S. States Department, in charge of U.S. aids to Irag."

4. "Before those poor kids were shot to death,
Chou greeted them, 'how are you? nice to see you?'"


#2 & #4 COULD be true, but I have serious doubts. They sounded to me like sick and extremely mean-spirited lies.

#1 & #3 are totally false:

1. While there are many federal and state laws, such as the Privacy Act of 1974 and the 1996 Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), that protect an individual's medical records and other private information, law enforcement agencies are always allowed to obtain such information (through due process, of course). 趙承熙 was able to pass the mandatory background checks and purchase the guns only because (due to a legal loophole the governor is supposedly trying to close ASAP) Virginia had failed to report him to the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

3. His sister works for a contractor (to whom the govt has outsourced the work) at the Iraq Reconstruction Management Office of the States Department. It looks like she's on track to eventually become a government employee (for which she seems extremely well qualified), but right now she's not even a so-called "official."

2007-04-26 14:04 Patrick

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記


>>>
I totally understood how Mao Tse-Dong's resentment of crappy treatment by faculty toward library clerks could result in Culture Revolution. Now I looked back to those days fondly.

無責任館長 :

I believe some of my cousins had part-time jobs
in (school) libraries. And the girls seemed to feel OK...
Anyway... I guess we are lucky enough to have you here
as "無責任館長" 而非 Mao or Cho.
Just kidding, of course. Nice to know you, though here is
in many aspects a sad topic.

我想早先我有看見新的英文新聞 提到維州的韓裔美人團體要求
州長替移民與移民家庭 籌募治療精神疾病的基金 well, it's
one approach among many... let's see...

2007-04-26 09:48 paris

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

Patrick:

None taken. One of my staff called me a "young curmudgeon." I wear that label with pride.

Paris:

That's my impression, too. With all his family, classmates, roommates, etc. being interviewed by news media. If he did part-time job during high school or college, former co-workers or supervisors should had been tracked down and interviewed by now. Maybe he worked within the local Korean-American community, which had clamed down in the aftermath.

Financial aid don't cover that much those days. It's also unwise for English majors to took out too much student loans. As for scholarship, school papers are usually pretty good at annoncing students receiving such large scholarships, so I don't think he got that much. Based on what I read, he is no Sylvia Plath.

If it's indeed true that his family situation was such, he didn't have to take on part-time job to pay his way through school. Then being the curmudgeon I am, I find his rant against "rich kids" ironic. As my definition for "rich kids" back then was people who could afford not to have part-time jobs.

Despite making my work-study job into a career, I totally despise my job at that time. It can be humiliating to serve one's own classmates. And when my peers are out there partying, I was stuck with my work shift. I totally understood how Mao Tse-Dong's resentment of crappy treatment by faculty toward library clerks could result in Culture Revolution. Now I looked back to those days fondly.

2007-04-26 03:05 無責任館長

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記


Hi,

這使我想到曾在舊的 "George" 上
一位女專欄作家痛陳她本來是反對私人擁槍的
但是在她一位女朋友在 D.C. 被綁架殺害後
她不由得想 : 如果她的朋友當時手提包中有一把槍
可以用來自衛 也許就不會送命了 ...

btw :
The kids are all in campus again,
Life moves on...

2007-04-26 00:36 paris

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

to Paris,

U.S. laws prohibit transfering of Chou's medical records to
any other insititutions (FBI, police dept etc), this is why he
can buy guns and ammo; after this incident, there are still
70% of American support gun law, this is the 2nd Amendment;Virginia law makers are putting together a law to have such
inhibition lifted.

Gun law is well trenched in this country, it is a culture.

Dr. T

2007-04-26 00:19 Dr. T

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

to wjzgj

Yes, experience builds characters, I know Tenderloin, you must
be a strong kid, I respect that.

Yes, life is so unfair, your way to take on such setback
is the right attitude to survive in the U.S. or anywhere;
discrimination is a very complicated matter, reading thru
their mind is no use, they are just a bunch of crude jerks and
losers, if necessary, shout (or do) it back! with more intensity; of course, discriminations exists! it will not (or never) go away
soon, just deal with it, this is a fact of life, tell your children
and friends. In California, there are so many minorities,
discrimination? who is kidding who?

Weaker financial standing may be the cause of discrimination,
of course, this is another issue.

Chou was a prince in his family, he had guns, latest gigs,
occassionally called "escort service" for his need.
His sister was graduated from Princeton (she was also
accepted by Harvard), currently works, as a high official, in
U.S. States Department, in charge of U.S. aids to Irag.
Isn't it amazing?

Dr. T


2007-04-26 00:07 Dr. T

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記


無責任館長 :

在我和我朋友看到的資料上 沒有任何趙承熙打工或 work-study
的資料 以美國新聞處理來說 如果有的話 現在應該已經披露了吧
獎學金就不清楚 因為在歐洲學費不貴 但是如果有特別經濟上補貼
而又是牽涉到學生背景隱私 就會選擇不公開資料

Dr. T :

我有一位舅舅 二十多年來一直在美國大學行政系統做事
美東待了很久 最近幾年都是在南加 他說以前常要處理非裔美人的問題
現在多半是西裔學生的事
而學校人員在順序上絕對是先幫助學生 可是如果學生
自己不尋求幫助 或是對主動提供的幫助沒有反應 那就比較難處理
學校會尊重學生是獨立的個體 因為都已經是大學生了
(在美國 這至少表示學生有基本的自我協調控制力吧)

這回趙承熙的事 因為至少有族裔和精神異常兩個因素加在一起
又牽涉韓國人的家庭和宗教系統 是多重禁忌
在我所看見的法國部落格討論中 現在如果只談"美國槍枝泛濫"
已經會被批"過份簡化問題"
雖然很多最後答案一定還是無解 但是大部份人 (不只警調單位或學校
當局) 還是會繼續從不同角度追索因果的吧

2007-04-25 23:34 paris

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

To Theo,

1. Why "開批鬥大會"?

I'm willing to assume that, for some people, a REASONABLE amount of "鞭屍" may be an absoluely necessary part of the healing process. But it's beyond me why sometimes they may seem to overkill (no pun intended).

2. "是什麼讓我們免於變成一頭野獸的?"

My cynical and yet truthful answer to the more general question "是什麼讓我免於變成xxx?" is: Pure luck (thus far).



To DR. T,

To answer your question, I have a daughter who's a few years older than 趙承熙.



To Newanda,

My "cruel world" remark was prompted in large part by the news of 馮馮去世 (http://blog.chinatimes.com/KingKong/archive/2007/04/24/160576.html). He was a great role model for my generation (I brought his 《微曦》with me when I came here to study). And《微曦》probably told only half of what he actually had to endure in life. May he rest in peace.

Except for a very, very few isolated incidents from years ago that I can hardly recall, I really haven't experienced that much racism -- at least not at a personal level -- in my 27 years here in the U.S. Maybe staying away from big cities helped. Maybe I have been lucky. Or maybe I'm just not smart enough to learn the real reason why not everybody adore me. For whatever it's worth, here's some pieces of fatherly advice to you: Try not to take things too personal (there are many, many more equal-opportunity insensitive jerks out there than racists) and do give people the benefit of the doubt (the idiot who just said/did that stupid thing is one of those equal-opportunity insensitive jerks).


To 無責任館長,

Not trying to put you down or anything, I think I see my daughter in you (yes, yes, we tend to see only what we want to see and hear only what we want to hear). She tends to look at people and events more harshly than I would. I'm not sure whether it's because I've become too soft as an old fart or it's because she's had enough character-building (thanks to her loving but, alas, financially unsuccessful daddy) and feels somehow entitled to her (overly) critical opinions. But to be honest, I do usually see her points (although not always immediately) and sometimes even agree with her (always with reluctance, occasionally admitting it to her).

Really enjoyed talking to you.

2007-04-25 17:27 Patrick

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

Dr. T:

I am honored and flatered that you think my choices are worthy of respect. I certainly don't think not becoming a cold-blooded killer is something heroic. But I certainly had a lot of helps kept me from straying to far.

This tragedy, in my mind, examplifies the entitlement mentality that's getting more common. That modern advertising consumerism, coated in the languages of human right/civil right convincing people that they "deserve it" "worth it" "entitled to it" etc. A certain idealized "American dream," the sucesses (romantically, materially, financially, career, etc.) The flip-side is that if one does not achieve them, one is made to feel like failure. Now, I am not saying people should always be content and don't be too "uppity" to demand their rights or improve themselve. But sometimes, people acts like just because every thing is possible, we should aim for "everything." Here in Silicon Valley, I heard many people say, "I want to hit it big and retire before I am 30, 35, 40, etc." I had heard people my age(early 30s) proclaims "Jerry Yang(Yahoo)/Sergey Bring(Google) are about my age, why I am not so lucky." Those people convinced themselve to be failure or poor, because they have unrealistic sense of entitlement. It doesn't take much for people to transform their sense of failure into sense of victimization, justify their "lack of success" by blame others. Then it doesn't take much to think if others are at fault, they must be made to pay for it. Most people have some self-control, but sadly, Cho didn't.

The advantage on spend part of my youth living in Tenderloin, San Francisco, before the recent gentrification, is that I learned to appericate the fact that I wasn't living on the street of Tenderloin. For readers who are not familiar with San Francisco geography:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tenderloin_%28San_Francisco%29

I certainly wasn't happy about it at that time, but as the saying goes, that experience "build character."

As I was typing, something come to my mind. Maybe I missed it, so far none of the news account mentions that Cho hold a part-time job or work-study. Was he financially supported by his family? Did he had a full-scholarship?

2007-04-25 15:20 無責任館長

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

不好意思 再補充一點
有朋友提到我們都沒考慮到受害者的家人的心情
我覺得他的提醒是對的
但是我想說的是輕率的將加害者形容是邪惡
這對加害者的家人這些少數又是何其無奈
別忘了
不管是加害還是受害者家屬 都享有同樣的人權
假如社會真要動用到集體報復思維跟責難系統
去在人家面前指稱妳的小孩很邪惡 令其感到痛苦內疚
這樣 這個集體 這個大眾社會
也是邪惡

2007-04-25 13:20 theo

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

先道歉一下
敝人沒要挑釁的意思
我也沒同情兇手或幫他找藉口的意圖
但是 一個生了病受到社會傷害過的年輕成人
最後自己決定殺了一堆人然後自殺
留給世人一陣錯愕的巨大悲劇
也可以被大悲無情的形容成是一種evil
一種devil's work
我不曉得這樣的宗教性指稱
這樣的去壓縮一個人的本質
會不會太encapsulating了一點
對瞭解這個事件有什麼幫助
我知道關於這個議題
這個版面可以談的實在很少
因為我們對事件的瞭解太無知
但是起碼我們都很清楚這個人犯了一個無法彌補的濤天大錯
這是毋庸置疑的
我想不必再在此開批鬥大會
將他拿出來鞭屍了
尼采說:一個人要跟怪物搏鬥就要瞭解自己為何沒有變成怪物的過程
除了個人自由意志的把持之外
我想請問:是什麼讓我們免於變成一頭野獸的?




2007-04-25 13:03 theo

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

to wjzgj (wu jer zern guan jan)

Now you point us to a real issue; many things can put us on
the path of evil, the real difference is the choice we take, I
appreciate your comment, you must have a very good parent,
teach you such important lesson in life.

I respect you.

Dr. T

2007-04-25 07:18 Dr. T

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

to Paris

Thanks for your quick response.

I hate to lump two, or more things, together and try to
reason a solution. Before those poor kids were shot to death,
Chou greeted them, "how are you? nice to see you?" if this
behavior is normal, I just don't know what is normalcy,
many kids received three shots, last one on the head...
if this is not evil, I don't know what is evil.

I come to realize, education in Taiwan has serious flaw, they
don't teach us the "real world", we try to reason everything
just thought it should be reasonable, should it be?
this world does not run by this logic; see so many miseries and
sufferings, are they all really can be logically reasoned ?

Destroy evil, not tolerate and submit, my opinion.

Dr. T



2007-04-25 07:07 Dr. T

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

Dr. T:

As a data point, I am closer to Cho in age, so I don't have kids that age.

During my undergraduate year, graduate library school, and earlier part of my professional career, I worked in several academic/university libraries. So I am very familiar with Cho's type and what he's ranting against. And that's also why I ended up in another branch of librarianship.

In a sense, my life experience is not that different from him. Immigration at young age, not exactly being rich, and being a shy teen/young adult. The similiarity are numberous. The difference, the choice we made.

2007-04-25 07:06 無責任館長

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記


Hi, Dr. T :

>>>
if one believes in God, he/she should know devil really exists.

It's so sad, but I have to say maybe I understand what you
mean by this...

我和我的朋友因為伊拉克戰爭 這一向以來看過一些關於戰爭 士兵的
報導 而我們讀到紐約時報上一篇維州理工槍擊現場圖示加上文字資料
的詳細說明後 是整個人都要結冰了的感覺

我想說的是 我願意相信他是精神病患 因為 否則
就真的得結論 "devil really exists" 了 ...

而有異常精神狀況的學生 有何種系統可以保護他們免受旁人傷害
也保護旁人免受他們傷害 是個確然存在的問題 還不知道由這件事
是否可以得出一點點真正可行的正面結論 ...

2007-04-25 06:03 paris

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

Dr.T

I'd like to hear ur further
explanation about "devil really exists"
thanks

Are are the persons
who were going postal or running amok
in American history devils?

If not, why there is something so special about Chou
that could make him a devil while others not?

Or, it's just my misunderstanding.
You mean Chou has been possessed by devil
that enabled him to do such a terrible thing?

2007-04-25 02:36 theo

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

to Paris,

Long time, how are you?

I see both, victims' and Chou's, families were shattered, big
holes in their life forever, sympathies and condolences should
goes to all of them.

Responsibilities should fall on Chou himself, he was an
adult, should control his emotions like every other persons;
being bullied in high school or discriminated against are not
excuses, lot of kids have the same experiences, but all tried
to manage to a reasonable level. Indeed, he was mentally
illed, a psychopath, he should be reported to school, police,
and medical facilities at the first place, just too late, isn't
it? police investigations come up news about him everyday;
if one believes in God, he/she should know devil really exists.
Welcome to the real world.

Dr. T

2007-04-25 01:32 Dr. T

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記

Patrick,

Rather being cruel, this world is more dichotomous. Things seem to be either black or white (some might call it blue or green LOL), and little in between. I, too, am going to college here. I know how "cruel" colledge kids can be. I have been in the states for three and half years. Although SF is such a liberal city, I can still feel racial tension every now and then, not to mention states such as Virginia. I am impressed about the various people voicing their opinions here. Thanks to 紙莎草 for her article provides us an opportunity to see the various aspects of this tragic event.

2007-04-25 01:24 Newanda

re: 馬加爵與趙承熙的仇恨筆記


也想多聽一點您的意見呢
Dr. T
好幾天沒看見您出現 ?

另一邊的討論 有網友說大家好像避免談種族問題
大概是未免節外生枝

我回說倒是覺得大家比較避免談到趙承熙的家人
與家人面對被診斷為自閉症親人的態度...
在這個事件中
大家是不忍心提吧 因為他們已經太 太 太 辛苦了 ...

2007-04-25 00:31 paris
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