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保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

2008-05-08 08:51迴響:26點閱:5077

七天了,對於「巴紐門」弊案,案情一夕數變,各種故事與劇本光怪陸離。哪一版本是真的?都仍是霧裡看花,真相混沌。

 

惟一可以確定的,就是十億元的納稅人血汗錢被A了,這筆錢目前到哪去了、是不是回到台灣某些更有力人士的荷包中?不得而知。

 

案情的背後,應有一個腥風血雨的幕後黑手,可以看到一個惶惶然、害怕生命受害的前外交部長黃志芳,還有一個自認生命受到威脅,頻搞「自保」的涉嫌人吳思材。

 

這種故事,可能是假的,卻不能等閒視之。涉及國家機密層次的醜聞,相關人死得不明不白,血例處處。

 

如「拉法葉案」已經死了法國與台灣的九位可能關係人,如美國的「白水案」, 1993720,時任美國總統柯林頓法律副總顧問的福斯特意外死了,他殺、自殺?陰謀論讓美國為之翻騰。

溫森‧福斯特跟柯林頓是中學同學,一起進了法學院變成終身的好朋友,福斯特經手的都是柯林頓私人的事情,投資、家庭的事情。柯林頓的政敵聲稱福斯特的死另有隱情。甚至懷疑他是因為涉及白水案的敏感機密而遭人謀害。

 

「白水門」是美國聯邦調查局發現第一夫人希拉蕊曾從該擔保「白水開發」公司獲得過一筆可觀的非法紅利,這筆錢先存入白水開發公司柯林頓名下,然後希拉蕊再利用法律上的空子將這筆錢轉出,用作柯林頓當年競選連任阿肯色州州長的費用。

 

美國經過七年,耗資七千萬美元曠日持久的調查、取證、詢問和聽證,十幾人在白水案中立罪,包括阿肯色州前州長塔克和前司法部官員胡貝爾。但作為白水案的兩位關鍵人物,柯林頓夫婦在此案中的作用,通曉法律的希拉蕊串通了一些相關人員紛紛裝聾作啞,使調查無法順利進行下去,歷經了七年馬拉松式的調查,都沒有發現任何足以威脅柯林頓政府的證據。

 

溫森‧福斯特之死的湊巧,遂成此案一直被討論的話題。

 

正因為可能牽涉到總統,連美國、法國都可能會有「意外」發生在位高權重的人身上,醜聞因而不了了之。

 

請問:「巴紐門」醜聞,真的只是兩個金光黨,或邱義仁胡作非為嗎?還是另有黑手,才會讓黃志芳、吳思材驚惶不安!

 

檢調司法單位真的該仔細評估,聲押邱義仁!把邱義仁「保護」起來,也許,才有機會確保真相大白!

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回應: 保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

邱義仁之該死是知道及參與的秘密太多、太多,多到阿扁擔心萬一他大義滅主招供出來。
邱義仁之笨是以為自己無所不能,還認為阿扁王朝是日不落國,永遠不會曲終人散。
他早該知道自己會比尹清風更慘!!

2008-05-09 08:17 留星

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再次轉貼:

The Elements of Journalism (From Wikipedia)

According to <<The Elements of Journalism>> by Bill Kovach and Tom Rosensteil, there are nine elements of journalism. In order for a journalist to fulfill their duty of providing the people with the information they need to be free and self-governing, they must follow these guidelines.

1. Journalism's first obligation is to the truth.
2. Its first loyalty is to the citizens.
3. Its essence is discipline of verification.
4. Its practitioners must maintain an independence from those they cover.
5. It must serve as an independent monitor of power.
6. It must provide a forum for public criticism and compromise.
7. It must strive to make the significant interesting and relevant.
8. It must keep the news comprehensive and proportional.
9. Its practitioners must be allowed to exercise their personal conscience.

2008-05-09 01:15 加州客

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輿論干預司法也不見得是好事
不然的話
一堆被社會所歧視的人,倒楣成為司法的審判對象
是否要在國人皆曰可殺的情形下
被社會所犧牲掉呢?
司法之所以要跟社會保持距離
是有它的理由的
媒體跟社會可以盡量發瘋沒關係
但司法要堅持自己按證據跟推理審判的立場

2008-05-08 21:00 非也

回應: 保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

金紀玖520前出面 黑道追殺令逼的.金紀玖之所以避不見面,是因為看到黑道在網路上以「藏頭詩」的方式對他發出奪命追殺令。「尋尋覓覓一故人,金榜提名上此呈,紀念堂中滿塵恩,玖玖歸一在紅塵,賞心悅目戀黃昏,百里追尋在赤城,萬事如意于一生,元宵佳節觀花燈」,這首詩乍看之下好像是要尋找某人相約賞景,其實詩中暗藏玄機,重點就在每一句的句首連起來唸就成了「尋金紀玖賞百萬元」。據說,當初金紀玖就是在某個黑道網頁上看到這首所謂的藏頭詩,大驚失色,隨即展開跨國大逃亡。

金紀玖委任律師張修表示,「這個啦,把他(金)嚇壞了,有人要把他置於死地!」記者透過各種管道,終於找到金紀玖在美國委任的律師。金紀玖透過律師喊冤說,他不是捲款潛逃躲起來,是為了保命,而且不只金紀玖本人,律師透露,就連金紀玖在美國工作的子女性命都可能受到威脅。

金紀玖委任律師張修說,「他(金)十分擔心他們(兒女)的安全,因為我想如果有人想找他的話,他們一定會想辦法盯著小孩子,看他有沒有跟小孩連絡。」

I suspect it is not 黑道網頁. It is DPP 黑道網頁. Just see who is going to be benefitted and why he is looking to Ma for help but not US FBI. He and his kids are all in US. This is going to be interesting.

2008-05-08 20:04 Jack

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Correction: smuggled USD$3millions should be "USD cash $30 millions" or whatever Fong Fu-Shin's last number was. Fong had good connection in Taiwan and US intelligency world. It would be an insult to Lee DH to say he rushed his wife to move just $3 millions back and forth. :-)

2008-05-08 19:02 Jack

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台灣的司法狗官蠢官們活著何用?

2008-05-08 18:52 獨醉倒

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A lot of people wondering why 馬英九 has to talk with 李登輝 so many times. I had suspect too so I kept pushing and from the responses I figured it out. Do we all be so proud of our Taiwan miracles? There is one we never mentioned it openly which is Taiwan is the only underdeveloped or developing Asian country didn't get leader killed by US. Lee DH is the only left one had that experience. Two Chiangs are gone and Chiang KS probably was the most experienced in his time. Chiang JK probably told 馬英九 to check with 李登輝 for new tricks that he didn't have chance to learn yet. Lee DH violated US best interest few times and he even smuggled USD$3millions in and out US in 3 days but US protected his name. No matter how we feel about him, we have to admit he is the only standing experienced dude so 馬英九 wants to learn from the wise guy. Blue people, game is game, it is not personal in politics. :-)

2008-05-08 18:52 Jack

回應: 保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

陳水扁's death before 5/20 meets the best interest of US. Here are the reasons:

1. US spends USD$3-4 billions a week to have Naval Aircarrier fleets standing by Taiwan is for bigger interest. American is definitely not stupid. The big interest is the Taiwan ATM they have. Comparing with other military procurement corruptions, what we see is a small dish or peanuts. US is the major taker of these money and they want to take this pretection fee continuely. US wants Taiwan has two parties and one party listens to US and tilts to TI to pull China's leg. DPP is collapsing if 陳水扁 doesn't die dramatically.

2. DPP had previous records for doing this. During KaoShuang Mei-Li-Dau's tough time, Lin I-Shuan was jailed singly. KMT got information to persecute other members with details that only core team member knew. It was against US best interest. US CIA professional killed Lin's family to stop the bleeding. Witness saw a westerner with beards went in Lin's family before the incidence. KMT and DPP both knew it and they both didn't dare to dig out the truth. Same was Chen Wen-Chen murder, KMT wasn't that stupid to kill him. Chen was CIA agent so he was punished for talking too much. KMT and DPP both didn't dare to investigate it.

3. 邱義仁 is smarter than most of people in Taiwan. He is the bait to get all attention to 陳水扁. They all got money and much more money than we see for their family. Look what 陳水扁 said and is doing, he has no shame and he is talking philosophical words for people to memorize him about his sacrifice. He was even choosing the Yuan San to die for TI movement. He is not going to face lousy and insulting life afet 5/20. It is "Live worth less than die as The Son of Taiwan". His family will have honor and money after he does die as TI hero.

4. All DPP activities are on hold and they are calmly waiting for their leader to die for them. Once 陳水扁 gets assasinated by WSR TIer such as Chen Si-Meng kind of people. The whole nation's anger is released and in shock. No big riot will happen because our beloved Ma is alive. The Vice president will be in charge and hold the nation in martial law for one or two years to let DPP recovering then pass the power to Ma to be President for two-three years. During these 2-3 years, Ma may lose gradually to Hsieh. DPP can win next term. After using 陳水扁's death to buy one or two year time for DPP to regroup and come back is good political move.

5. Ma figured out this so he went to Lee DH to learn how to deal with this robbery crisis. Lee DH told him to use 賴幸媛 to please US, so Ma did even he knew what Blue price he had to pay. Ma will pardon 陳水扁 to keep him as a walking ATM for Ma. DPP is the one wants 陳水扁 to suffer or die so DPP can get new life. Did you hear Chen Si-Meng asked 陳水扁 not accepting pardon from Ma? The next unspoken or unfinished sentence is "Don't beg like coward and die like Taiwanese hero for us."

6. All procurement corruption people are extemely low profile such as Wu Nei-Ren. May be some one is already on US ship for protection. I bet US fleet is not here for PRC, they are here for controlling KMT and Ma after 陳水扁's death. It is the best interest of US. During Lee DH's missle crisis, Clinton was the President. Clinton wasn't determined to fight against PRC so US retreated after they found out all PRC's submarines were out of the port going to LA hitting my TI brothers. Now we have Bush who is cowboy in bad shape. If US in confrontation with China, it will help his successor John McCain to win the election. It is win-win situration for Republican, US, and DPP. For 陳水扁, it's alright, his family has US citizenships and USD$300 millions. Good enough.

What you think? Is there any other way to serve US interest better? Is there any other way to keep DPP alive?

Most strategists including amature me thinking what the results I need first then thinking backward to the current situation to figure out the alternatives with the least resistence. To kill Ma is too dangerous and too hard to control. Ma has high support now. 陳水扁 doesn't have any support now. All these 544 millions people is for DPP, not for him. He even doesn't have the support from these three dudes who are in trouble on the News. I bet his daughter even wishes he is dead by now too, otherwise how she is going to live and how her sons have face to live?

2008-05-08 18:10 Jack

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shouri,

台灣司法的黑暗,我當然知道。
個人淺見是,司法有多少黑暗面,報導、揭發、監督都是媒體的責任。但,干預司法,期期不可。
因為這麼一來,媒體自己也臭了。
說到底,我只是表達「我愛其禮<制度>」而已。

創夏兄前面一版強調記律性的重要,媒體人更該如此。

2008-05-08 17:09 老銀

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銀老,
您是學識淵博之人, 如果您知道台灣"鄧如雯案"和西方"德雷福斯(Dreyfus)案"的前因後果, 您就會同意, 輿論干涉司法, 是讓司法真正成為正義象徵的唯一途徑!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-05-08 16:31 shouri

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扁政府的潘朵拉黑箱子到底還有多少不可告人
的狗屁倒灶齷齪事?

邱義仁如果是個漢子, 敢作敢當, 乾脆全招出來算了.

不過, 諒他不敢.

2008-05-08 15:33

回應: 保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

shouri、alex,

兩位都知道我對扁政府深惡痛絕,
如今這幫惡人真到了國人皆曰可殺的地步,
問題是我們必須交由司法來處理。

媒體固然是第四權,但絕不可干預或侵襲司法權,
今之媒體已自我膨脹到自以為是神,
即便報導錯誤也從不自省的地步,
這幾天關於此案,媒體表面在追求真相,
其實反讓事實更加混淆。

版主這篇文章就犯了這個毛病,
邱義仁有宣稱他害怕嗎?
憑什麼你幫他作決定?
要不要保護,要不要聲押都是檢方的裁量權,
媒體可以自大到以己之好惡而侵害嗎?




2008-05-08 14:42 老銀

回應: 保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

shouri> 銀老,
shouri> 我想這次您真的錯了...媒體就是第四權,
shouri> 就是輿論的代表, 他當然有權代人民發聲,
shouri> 畢竟他無法真的去指揮檢察官或法官. 之所以
shouri> 要強調司法獨立, 是因為有些有權調動檢察官
shouri> 或法官的權力者, 為了自己的利益, 去干涉
shouri> 司法, 這和媒體為人民發聲的立場完全不同.
shouri> 否則, 難道媒體不該告訴馬英九, 絕對不可以
shouri> 特赦陳水扁嗎? 當年鄧如雯獲得減刑, 難道
shouri> 媒體沒有貢獻嗎? 我不懂以媒體立場干涉司法
shouri> 有啥錯??

撇開媒體版主應不應該要求檢察官聲押邱義仁不談,
各位覺得邱在外面還是在裏面比較安全?

如果邱背後還有一個藏鏡人的話,五月二十日之前裏面
鐵定更危險。 古代皇帝賜你一杯酒喝,你就得喝。 邱在
裏面,會不會收到一個上面給的多拿滋?

我想,如果版主不是在諷刺的話,這個建議就太可笑了。

又及,我不太清楚美國柯林頓夫婦是不是真的像版主說的
這樣,一手遮天,玩弄法律系統,躲過牢飯。 但是
希拉蕊選過兩次紐約州聯邦參議員,現在又繼續在美國
總統候選人爭取民主黨提名。 她的政敵沒有人繼續提
白水案,不是美國政治水準比台灣高,挖對手瘡疤沒有用,
就是大家都不再懷疑白水案的調查結果。

2008-05-08 13:41 楊文衡

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銀老:

 實話說,你說"指揮誰判誰死刑"這句話,目前還真的在我心裡。今天中午新聞,一家人,為了兒子的癌症,搞到家破,人未亡,身上只有三十塊吃飯。對照邱義仁,假如可以的話,我真想直接就把邱義仁送走算了。

 什麼?沒有證據?我知道沒有證據,但邱前科累累,最近這次搞失憶不算,遠一點的,2004/3/19他是如何告訴大家"子彈在總統身上"?這次我特別聽了他講話:"我絕對沒有拿到任何一毛錢"。這可是他說的,"沒有拿到"不代表"不拿"。這句話是"現在進行式",意思是"還沒有拿到",未來會不會拿到?不知。這種滿嘴胡柴,老在抓人家字縫的作法,實在讓人反感。

 就因為我覺得我們"將不可能"伸張應有的正義,我才真的想不審就判邱義仁死刑。

2008-05-08 13:32 alex

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銀老,
我想這次您真的錯了...媒體就是第四權, 就是輿論的代表, 他當然有權代人民發聲, 畢竟他無法真的去指揮檢察官或法官. 之所以要強調司法獨立, 是因為有些有權調動檢察官或法官的權力者, 為了自己的利益, 去干涉司法, 這和媒體為人民發聲的立場完全不同.
否則, 難道媒體不該告訴馬英九, 絕對不可以特赦陳水扁嗎? 當年鄧如雯獲得減刑, 難道媒體沒有貢獻嗎? 我不懂以媒體立場干涉司法有啥錯??

2008-05-08 13:15 shouri

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檢方要不要聲押邱義仁,檢方自有考量。
媒體人總喜歡高喊司法獨立,
可自己最喜歡干預司法辦案和進度。
現在你們動不動就要求收押誰,
下一步就會要求誰該判死刑了!
這樣做,對嗎?
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Journalists in Taiwan are all a commander who can command a prosecutor what to do. How you feel who you are is what they feel who they are.




2008-05-08 12:21 老吟

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整個戲就像不肖公司負責人慣用的掏空案
假冒買貨將錢匯出國外
再從中獲利
看來十億都沒匯入國內
沒有人會笨到再把錢吐出來

金吳黃邱柯等人都尚未分到錢
USD980萬應該已經入藏鏡人的國外人頭戶
而USD2000萬可能在金手上
或許也早在藏鏡人的國外人頭戶裡

資金流向不多
演員亦簡單
要破案不難
就看檢察官的功力了

2008-05-08 12:15 sun

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別鬧了,沒人殺得了邱義仁。
烏龜怕鐵鎚,蟑螂怕拖鞋,
台灣拖鞋很多,就沒有過鐵鎚。

吳思材說要接受測謊更是笑話一樁。
連我這市井小民都見識過可以躲開測謊的壞蛋,
何況這些遊走政治情治的人。

2008-05-08 11:37 Roger

回應: 保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

dear yy:偶覺得你真的多慮了!那五百四十萬民眾不會心碎,只會憤怒:「以前國民黨污的更多都沒事,為什麼民盡黨只弄個10億就搞得這麼大條!這就是欺負台灣人啦!」信不信?你不信,偶也沒辦法,就讓你繼續難過吧!
那個「關關」,你的意見也是「驚天動地」,非常地有啟發性!這樣吧!先把你「關」起來,如果你沒危險,又能繼續發揮創作能力的話,咱們再來研究是否聲押版主吧!
版主:我非常同意為了保護「無辜」的邱副院長,是該請他進鐵籠以防萬一。現在比較掙扎的是那個被東森新聞說「才幹過科長就敢去接部長」的黃鼠狼是否也該被列為保育動物?我看他嚇得有點要ㄘㄨㄚˋ賽的樣子,十分於心不忍!

2008-05-08 11:19 bubu

回應: 保護邱義仁,立刻聲押!

檢方要不要聲押邱義仁,檢方自有考量。
媒體人總喜歡高喊司法獨立,
可自己最喜歡干預司法辦案和進度。
現在你們動不動就要求收押誰,
下一步就會要求誰該判死刑了!
這樣做,對嗎?

2008-05-08 11:18 老銀
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