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到底是誰在亂?

2006-09-15 11:01迴響:464點閱:54241

到底是誰在亂?

 

最近,經常有一種時空錯亂的感覺,不曉得誰在執政。

 

明天,綠營支持者將在凱達格蘭大道發動一場大型集會。民進黨立委揚言,要讓凱道滿出來,而黨中央也表態,無論黨公職人員要動員多少輛遊覽車,黨部將無限制補助。看來,民進黨大有和倒扁總部拼人氣、拼場面的氣魄。

 

不過,民進黨可能忘了,根據民調顯示,阿扁的支持度只有一成多。即使動員再多輛遊覽車,超低的民意支持度,仍是個不能改變的事實。民進黨此舉,除了打腫臉充胖子之外,實在看不出有什麼意義。

 

另外,針對部分民眾提議,將要發動罷工行動,作為對阿扁施壓的手段,民進黨立委郭正亮昨天也召開記者會表示,如果公營銀行罷工,他呼籲在這些銀行開戶的民眾剪掉信用卡、提出所有存款作為抵制;如果中油罷工,他要求民眾改到其他加油站加油。

 

簡單的說,郭正亮的邏輯是,如果你要亂,我就比你更亂,看看到最後,到底是誰怕誰。

 

而今天,正是行政院長蘇貞昌宣示,半年內讓民眾感受到治安好起來的支票兌現日。根據民調結果,感受到治安好轉的民眾,不到一成,而行政院的反應,不是由蘇貞昌遞出辭呈,反而是買下各媒體全版廣告,聲稱行政院「用心拼治安,進步看得到」。原來,治安好不好,不是由民眾說了算,而是全憑行政院一句話。

 

這就是我們的政府、這就是我們的執政黨嗎?這是一個完完全全不懂得反省、檢討、虛心受教的領導團隊。

 

第一家庭明明被貪瀆烏雲籠罩,但阿扁卻選擇龜縮不語,任憑支持者硬拗成「挺扁就是愛台灣」;罷工的提議,明明就是表示人民對於阿扁政權不知進退的憤怒,但民進黨立委卻要搞成以暴制暴,不惜同歸於盡的態勢;治安狀況連連,明明是行政院做不好,但卻要花人民的納稅錢,去買下報紙大幅廣告,為自己的政績擦脂抹粉。這麼顢頇的政府,還要人民如何忍受?

 

當家做主的人,既然不介意把事態擴大,那麼,百萬倒扁的民眾們,又何必替他們操心呢?今晚的螢光圍城行動,就展現出人民的力量吧!稱帝的袁世凱,挺了83天就倒,阿扁呢?能撐多久?

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2006-09-15 11:01作者:范立達分類:時評迴響:464點閱:54241

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舊法西斯的「陰魂餘孽」--新「本土民粹法西斯」當權執政霸權

舊法西斯的「陰魂餘孽」---新「本土民粹法西斯」當權執政霸權

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今日的本土文革民粹治國台灣,【舊法西斯的陰魂餘孽---新「本土民粹法西斯」當權執政霸權】也同樣不時揮舞著「三合一敵人」的莫須有法西斯陰魂罪狀指控來「抹紅/抹黑」惡毒攻訐打擊任何質疑挑戰「本土民粹法西斯當權執政」的反對勢力和民主言論聲音,在虛罔欺偽的所謂「具有呆頑本土特色」的呆頑民主旗幟下(其實,民主口號對其只是權謀權宜性的操弄鬥爭「工具」),新「本土民粹法西斯」當權執政將這些新「三合一敵人」鬥爭批打為「民主國家的賤民」(愛呆頑21世紀「本土文革」下的呆頑黑五類),因為這些新公民民主運動反對異議分子「不配享有」其他人同樣的民主(言論)、(集會)自由。

隨著時代的進衍,舊法西斯陰魂餘孽的「本質」其實並沒有改變,改變的僅只是「重組變裝後」的新法西斯手腕、形式,在以往是靠藉著國家統治機器(如警總等)進行直接而粗魯的鎮壓,只不過如今的新「本土民粹法西斯」當家執政(愛鬧事)是以較「間接而迂迴」的方式合縱「操弄(地方綠衛兵/本土乩童/台瀆義和團)群眾和御用媒體等」為當權御用打手,以進行新台獨法西斯意識形態清洗鬥爭和恫嚇陣壓。

扁卒游舔王以民盡(執政黨)黨煮熄之尊在9/16「台灣國」台獨激進派群眾”反制” 9/15新公民反扁民主運動場子和9/17南下高雄煽動說,倒扁(新公民主義運動)就是「中國人糟蹋台灣人」、「不要以為只有你會遍地開花,我們也會讓你到處開花」諸類文革鬥爭言語。游舔王煮熄之煽動鼓惑無異是由當權執政中央發出本土乩童「鬥爭動員令」,凡倒扁(新公民民主運動)的都和中國有關,都受中國指使,無怪乎接下來的本土當權御用霉體打手民飾、三粒本土奠飾台(和全省之非法綠色地下電台樁腳政治黑衫隊大隊)就開始聞乩起舞大肆煽動炒作。其運作之基礎同樣是以神聖偉大的「國安大帽」為「恫嚇藉口」,以「凝造」拉昇社會和民眾心理「恐怖之氛圍」為操作手段。

新「本土民粹法西斯」當權執政刻意將倒扁運動(新公民民主運動)「抹紅/抹黑」的結果,形同也向南部的挺扁民眾(和那一大群只會躲在海外喊打喊殺的峱種「台灣國」外圍台獨)「暗示」著他們是幫中國的,「倒扁者(新公民民主運動)不配和一般人民享有一樣的民主言論及集會自由」,倒扁(新公民民主運動)人士也就自然而然順利成章的成為新「本土民粹法西斯」當權執政霸權下所操弄鬥爭下的新時代的「三合一敵人」了。
民盡「本土民粹法西斯」當權執政霸權這種彷如毛澤東”中央領導人”鼓動”地方”紅衛兵般「操弄」「(台灣國台獨激進派)人民與廣大人民對抗」鬥爭的「行徑居心」和「民粹鬥爭手法」實在是既民主反動又「險惡無比」!

2006-09-22 14:21 本土民粹法西斯

re: 到底是誰在亂?

台灣的警察真是鱉三, 只會欺負落單的百姓,對於耍流氓的暴民群眾卻只會袖手旁觀、嚇的尿褲子!
人民褓姆? 倒不如說是政客特權人物的保姆, 一個沒武器的落單百姓, 只因為不聽停車受檢,開車逃逸跑給警察追, 條子就可以沿街公然瘋狂連續開射51槍, 最後把一個單手匹馬、手無寸鐵的開車逃逸者「就地正法」「槍殺」了(民視竟能有線報「獨家」全程追蹤攝影,好奇怪喔!可是卻怎又沒有警察最後「就地正法」槍殺手無寸鐵逃逸客的正義戰警鏡頭ㄚ?), 卻對高雄、台南手拿棍棒攻擊武器主動恫嚇挑釁的民粹暴民完全「束手沒輒」, 任意讓這些囂張地痞流氓拿武器打人、砸車, 這是台灣的警察嗎? 欺善怕惡的呶種!!

民進黨刻意操縱民粹暴民(縱任「非法集會之群眾」去圍堵挑釁合法集會之民眾)毆打媒體及倒扁民眾(以恫嚇手腕製造社會「恐怖」), 已是很明顯的事實, 果然是一個粗暴無恥的政黨, 都已經當家執政了, 還在不時「運用」國家機器「玩弄」街頭運動的「伎倆」,意圖「壓迫」民主反對運動,「搞弄」民粹, 已經是一個日沒西山的政黨, 單看他的黨主席近日的講話, 就知道民進黨已快玩完了!

別再玩弄那些法西斯民粹手法了, 看看泰國, 匈牙利, 墨西哥, 刻意說謊欺騙的政府絕對坐不久, 即使作困獸鬥, 終究還是要下台的, 而且會下台的很難看!

2006-09-22 14:20 癟三政府

re: 到底是誰在亂?

為了保顏面,民進黨護貪保皇黨/顏聖冠只好「虛晃一招」對外放話「欺罔大眾視聽」謊稱說已提早歸還了凱道路權

為了保住顏面避免穿幫更加狼狽,民進黨護貪保皇黨挺扁/台獨社團台灣社/顏聖冠只好倉促「對外放話」說已決定「提早收攤」,「提前」歸還當初所「搶佔」之9/17~9/20凱道路權(雖對外放風聲「聲稱」已提前歸還路權了,其實根本不過是「欺罔大眾視聽」的謊言、並沒有歸還,如此「虛晃一招」之術可避免遭媒體和大眾質疑其為何「搶走」了路權場子卻「佔著毛坑不拉屎」、不使用?又想博得一番顧全大局的好名聲)。

顏聖冠(顏錦福女)當初為了「反制」「卡住」反貪腐倒扁的靜坐活動,硬是「半路殺出」,搶佔凱道9/16~9/20的路權以「反制」嗆聲。在顏咬金「卡到」了凱道的路權後,還在內部被護貪保皇黨和台獨激進派視為「英雄」。包括由於「呆頑心聲」收視率低靡而早遭年代製作單位停播的汪笨湖等唬濫嘴當時就開始嗆聲說9/16時將會號召到十萬人在凱道「插旗挺扁」,讓反貪腐倒扁總部(施明德施琅)看看台灣人「挺扁」的「氣勢人場」如何如何云……

結果,不但挺扁人氣相對潰散,來的全都民盡黨中央號令黨公職所(補助)「動員」而來的「台灣國」”台獨激進派”和一群為了”拼選舉”而圖”藉機”曝光造勢的菜鳥縣市議員候選人樁腳們。北市警方的官方統計活動群眾人數是5萬人(連達到先前嗆聲十萬的基本目標都沒有,而愛唬濫的「台灣社」卻能”吹噓五倍”成25萬人),僅只有反貪腐倒扁圍城夜群眾官方統計群眾人數36萬5千人的七分之一而已(1 vs. 7),而根據住在附近杭州南路的居民表示,9/16當天一直到南部遊覽車載送來一車車(補助)「動員」前來的「台灣國」人群之前(高雄葉菊蘭方面即動員了六千人),現場根本也沒有什麼人,而活動也不過只有幾個小時就收場、「台灣國」郊遊走路工就”趕忙要打道回府”了。幾個舔王中除了死抱大腿的新「鎮黨之寶」(向來愛嗆聲亦不知羞恥為何物的立院「三寶」痞子俗辣流氓當權打手早已龜縮隱遁)扁卒憨坤仔游舔王之外,則一個個「閃的閃、溜的溜」!再加上9/16「台灣國」台獨激進群眾在主辦單位的諸多暗示鼓動之下而拆電視台轉播播報台及攻擊主播的「民粹法西斯暴民形象」更是令民進黨人”驚心、尷尬不已”。(中天發現主播遭受攻擊威脅的時間點恰好在當日活動中有人在舞台上公然高聲呼喊「中天匪台」及煽惑群眾「拒看中天」之後,同時在活動現場隨處可見事前製作的「拒看中天」海報與貼紙,諸事證現象可見此一民粹暴民暴力恫嚇事件似早經有鼓動謀畫)
在震撼人心的9/15近百萬人(張友驊保證當夜有75萬人以上的群眾)滂沱大雨反貪腐圍城夜和9/16「台灣國」走路工嗆聲活動之後,民盡保皇黨(政客)們內心自然也完全清楚了然相對的外在情勢了,內心早已是「膽戰心驚、驚惶莫名」!看看挺扁凱道場子活動也實在也是撐不下去了,為了保住顏面避免穿幫狼狽,於是只好半途倉促急喊「收攤」,趕快對外放話宣稱「提前歸還」當初顏聖冠為了「搗亂」對方之目的所搶到「卡住」的凱道路權來找下臺階下!(對外放風聲「聲稱」已提前歸還路權了,其實根本不過是「欺惘民眾視聽」的謊言、並沒有歸還,如此「虛晃一招」之術可避免遭媒體和大眾質疑其為何「搶走」了路權場子卻「佔著毛坑不拉屎」、不使用?又想博得一番顧全大局的好名聲)。不過,本土痞子俗辣畢竟還是不失為本土痞子俗辣本色,狼狽提早收攤也就罷了、對外(透過炒地皮豢養房奴卡奴爆發財團御用霉體漬油屎爆等)還能唬濫出一套「冠冕堂皇」的說辭,同時還反手順便吃吃對方豆腐一番,又是令人搖頭無言!

本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學遍地開花

本土「被迫害妄想狂精神官能症」病情突然擊遽惡化而開始胡言亂語的扁卒游舔王隔日(9/17)即南下南呆頑高雄,開始明目張膽「歇斯底里」地訴諸最後民粹手段之「本土符咒」遮羞布萬靈丹,以黨煮熄之尊對本土乩童激進派挑撥、煽動族群仇恨、練肖話~說些什麼中國人在糟蹋台灣人啦~哇哇蛙!舔王游煮熄說:「不要以為只有你會遍地開花,我們也會讓你到處開花。」以帶著「恫嚇性」的語言「暗示」著一種「暴力」,彷彿準備讓倒扁人「腦袋開花」般。暗示鼓動(地方)本土綠衛兵進行前一日(9/16)台北郊遊行在凱道動手教訓、恫嚇非我族類媒體之「本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學。」不出一天(9/18~9/20),本土地方乩童綠衛兵在地下奠台政治黑衫隊(見紅就打)的鼓惑催眠下果然瘋狗蜂湧而出,表現傑出、繳出了耀眼的本土烏賊、打手業績,讓「本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學」迅速在南呆頑各地(高雄9/18>呆南9/19>屏東9/20)遍地開花!


2006-09-22 14:19 本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學遍地開花

re: 到底是誰在亂?

為了保顏面,民進黨護貪保皇黨/顏聖冠只好「虛晃一招」對外放話「欺罔大眾視聽」謊稱說已提早歸還了凱道路權

為了保住顏面避免穿幫更加狼狽,民進黨護貪保皇黨挺扁/台獨社團台灣社/顏聖冠只好倉促「對外放話」說已決定「提早收攤」,「提前」歸還當初所「搶佔」之9/17~9/20凱道路權(雖對外放風聲「聲稱」已提前歸還路權了,其實根本不過是「欺罔大眾視聽」的謊言、並沒有歸還,如此「虛晃一招」之術可避免遭媒體和大眾質疑其為何「搶走」了路權場子卻「佔著毛坑不拉屎」、不使用?又想博得一番顧全大局的好名聲)。

顏聖冠(顏錦福女)當初為了「反制」「卡住」反貪腐倒扁的靜坐活動,硬是「半路殺出」,搶佔凱道9/16~9/20的路權以「反制」嗆聲。在顏咬金「卡到」了凱道的路權後,還在內部被護貪保皇黨和台獨激進派視為「英雄」。包括由於「呆頑心聲」收視率低靡而早遭年代製作單位停播的汪笨湖等唬濫嘴當時就開始嗆聲說9/16時將會號召到十萬人在凱道「插旗挺扁」,讓反貪腐倒扁總部(施明德施琅)看看台灣人「挺扁」的「氣勢人場」如何如何云……

結果,不但挺扁人氣相對潰散,來的全都民盡黨中央號令黨公職所(補助)「動員」而來的「台灣國」”台獨激進派”和一群為了”拼選舉”而圖”藉機”曝光造勢的菜鳥縣市議員候選人樁腳們。北市警方的官方統計活動群眾人數是5萬人(連達到先前嗆聲十萬的基本目標都沒有,而愛唬濫的「台灣社」卻能”吹噓五倍”成25萬人),僅只有反貪腐倒扁圍城夜群眾官方統計群眾人數36萬5千人的七分之一而已(1 vs. 7),而根據住在附近杭州南路的居民表示,9/16當天一直到南部遊覽車載送來一車車(補助)「動員」前來的「台灣國」人群之前(高雄葉菊蘭方面即動員了六千人),現場根本也沒有什麼人,而活動也不過只有幾個小時就收場、「台灣國」郊遊走路工就”趕忙要打道回府”了。幾個舔王中除了死抱大腿的新「鎮黨之寶」(向來愛嗆聲亦不知羞恥為何物的立院「三寶」痞子俗辣流氓當權打手早已龜縮隱遁)扁卒憨坤仔游舔王之外,則一個個「閃的閃、溜的溜」!再加上9/16「台灣國」台獨激進群眾在主辦單位的諸多暗示鼓動之下而拆電視台轉播播報台及攻擊主播的「民粹法西斯暴民形象」更是令民進黨人”驚心、尷尬不已”。(中天發現主播遭受攻擊威脅的時間點恰好在當日活動中有人在舞台上公然高聲呼喊「中天匪台」及煽惑群眾「拒看中天」之後,同時在活動現場隨處可見事前製作的「拒看中天」海報與貼紙,諸事證現象可見此一民粹暴民暴力恫嚇事件似早經有鼓動謀畫)
在震撼人心的9/15近百萬人(張友驊保證當夜有75萬人以上的群眾)滂沱大雨反貪腐圍城夜和9/16「台灣國」走路工嗆聲活動之後,民盡保皇黨(政客)們內心自然也完全清楚了然相對的外在情勢了,內心早已是「膽戰心驚、驚惶莫名」!看看挺扁凱道場子活動也實在也是撐不下去了,為了保住顏面避免穿幫狼狽,於是只好半途倉促急喊「收攤」,趕快對外放話宣稱「提前歸還」當初顏聖冠為了「搗亂」對方之目的所搶到「卡住」的凱道路權來找下臺階下!(對外放風聲「聲稱」已提前歸還路權了,其實根本不過是「欺惘民眾視聽」的謊言、並沒有歸還,如此「虛晃一招」之術可避免遭媒體和大眾質疑其為何「搶走」了路權場子卻「佔著毛坑不拉屎」、不使用?又想博得一番顧全大局的好名聲)。不過,本土痞子俗辣畢竟還是不失為本土痞子俗辣本色,狼狽提早收攤也就罷了、對外(透過炒地皮豢養房奴卡奴爆發財團御用霉體漬油屎爆等)還能唬濫出一套「冠冕堂皇」的說辭,同時還反手順便吃吃對方豆腐一番,又是令人搖頭無言!

本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學遍地開花

本土「被迫害妄想狂精神官能症」病情突然擊遽惡化而開始胡言亂語的扁卒游舔王隔日(9/17)即南下南呆頑高雄,開始明目張膽「歇斯底里」地訴諸最後民粹手段之「本土符咒」遮羞布萬靈丹,以黨煮熄之尊對本土乩童激進派挑撥、煽動族群仇恨、練肖話~說些什麼中國人在糟蹋台灣人啦~哇哇蛙!舔王游煮熄說:「不要以為只有你會遍地開花,我們也會讓你到處開花。」以帶著「恫嚇性」的語言「暗示」著一種「暴力」,彷彿準備讓倒扁人「腦袋開花」般。暗示鼓動(地方)本土綠衛兵進行前一日(9/16)台北郊遊行在凱道動手教訓、恫嚇非我族類媒體之「本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學。」不出一天(9/18~9/20),本土地方乩童綠衛兵在地下奠台政治黑衫隊(見紅就打)的鼓惑催眠下果然瘋狗蜂湧而出,表現傑出、繳出了耀眼的本土烏賊、打手業績,讓「本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學」迅速在南呆頑各地(高雄9/18>呆南9/19>屏東9/20)遍地開花!


2006-09-22 14:18 本土民粹法西斯恐怖恫嚇暴力美學遍地開花

re: 到底是誰在亂?


>>>>>Taiwanese means all people live in Taiwan proper.

Correct. In plain language it is absolutely right. But ironically,
when it comes out from the mouth of those people
instigating divisiveness, hatred and violence it connotes
different implications.
*******************
>>>>>In order to prevent the society from disintegrating
>>>>>into further chaos, should Ma takes the lead in
>>>>>consolidateing every possible groups for a
>>>>>consensus? do nothing will not help current situation,
>>>>I hope he has something in his mind to deal with
>>>>>current fluid situation. <<<<<<<<<<

A very lawful and ideal suggestion. However, at this point in
time, though Ma could move heaven and earth it would still
be fruitless, assessing from the current political situation. A
consensus requires the backing of legislative measures
which, would be easier to say than done, with the kind of
cordon sanitaire being accorded by Chen's followers any
method / solution though peaceful (as long as it demands
for his ouster) would certainly meet with countermeasures.
In order to cease the chaos it is the responsibility of the
administration to initiate reconciliatory move to sober the
people's anger and not with political figures.

2006-09-22 11:39 A Bitch call Wu

re: 到底是誰在亂?

Weapon procurement.

If R.O.C. won't help herself, nobody will.

If KMT could have a more effective team work, Ma will not
encounter so much difficulties, even within his own party.
He must did his best, apparently meet with some resistance.

Dr. T


2006-09-22 09:12 Dr.T

re: 到底是誰在亂?

Taiwanese means all people live in Taiwan proper.

Premature democracy? how about the Greek, 2500 years ago.

In order to prevent the society from disintegrating into further
chaos, should Ma takes the lead in consolidateing every
possible groups for a consensus? do nothing will not help
current situation, I hope he has something in his mind to deal with current fluid situation.

After severe reprimand and punishment on those two
unfortunate police chiefs, those mob should think twice. This is standard law and order, I heard things are more orderly now,
those mobs are lucky last time.

Of course Ma is not responsible for things happened in
Tainan and Kaoshiung, all I am stressing is "be more agressive
and take the lead in solving political situation", after all he
is the most powerful man outside of DPP.

Thanks for your comments.

Dr. T


2006-09-22 09:03 Dr.T

re: 到底是誰在亂?


>>>>>>>Team works is still very alien to them. <<<<<<<<

Precisely referring to the green camps....

>>>>>>>like weapons procurement etc.,<<<<<<<<<<

Wonder if Taiwan really needed that?
A concept of parading money might, to show the world
that Taiwan can purchase everything money can buy,
tantamount to the foreign diplomatic policy.
It would again open a leeway to kickback & corruption for
those in power.
Think citizen of ROC never learns.

2006-09-22 08:35 A Bitch call Wu

re: 到底是誰在亂?


>>>>>>>I think Ma is responsible for:
>>>as a most powerful political figure outside of DPP, he
>>>should lobby, persuade or even beg, overtly and covertly, >>>to his party and possible outsiders, to a viable political
>>>solutions long time ago. Prolonging this chaos would only >>>breed more violence, precisely because the unreliability
>>>of our law enforcement. No matter who take the lead to
>>>negotiate us out of this mess, I am all for it, who say Ma
>>>couldn't take the lead, lest provoking green camp?
>>>A politician should be very skillful in such communicating,
l>>>obbying etc., A good leader should always take the lead,
>>>be bold and righteous. Do the right thing is always good
>>>and just. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Congressional lobbying is usually done for self interest or
cause.........
Beg ??? Why should he ? Ma represents no religious group
but leader of a political party.....
Dealing with a senseless, shameless person like Chen no
amount or known civilize method can persuade him through
force, maybe.....
Communicating in gentlemanly way can only happen in the
western hemisphere and has no room in Taiwan.....
Scrutinize the quality & behavior of Taiwan politician specially
those in the power flock, do anyone of them makes a
difference from Chen ???
A nation with premature democracy but pretending to be one
can always leads to the present day.....
The unreliability of the law enforcer.... who is to blame, but
the current administration for installing / promoting only
those loyal to Chen and not base on eligibility....
In conclusion.... all those chaos transpiring in the southern
part has nothing to do with Ma, it was a creation of green
camp's politicianS specially their chairman D' DAMNED COW in
signifying the party's fortification and to intimidate those who,
plan to opposse them....
Can somebody please explain in articulation what does the
word "TAIWANESE" implies....... I think it is the root of all
chaos....

2006-09-22 07:07 A Bitch call Wu

re: 到底是誰在亂?

to Young wen-hern

Thank you for your comments, but few points I like to raise.

I think you got me all wrong, you think Ma should be
responsible for Tainan and Kaoshiung, no! of course not.
That's the very ineptness of the law enforcement, which is we, all, should be very concerned about, they are not reliable.
justice is the weakest link in Taiwan, if law enforcement could
be executed more efficiently, there's shouldn't be so many
grievances among the people.

I think Ma is responsible for:
as a most powerful political figure outside of DPP, he should
lobby, persuade or even beg, overtly and covertly, to his party and possible outsiders, to a viable political solutions long time ago. Prolonging this chaos would only breed more
violence, precisely because the unreliability of our law
enforcement. No matter who take the lead to negotiate us out of this mess, I am all for it, who say Ma couldn't take the lead,
lest provoking green camp?
A politician should be very skillful in such communicating,
lobbying etc., A good leader should always take the lead,
be bold and righteous. Do the right thing is always good and
just.

I agreed legislator should spend more time on legislation,
but don't forget they represent us too. Writing off traffic
tickets is public offence, they should be prosecuted. As to talk show, I agreed they should curtail the frequencies, because
they never aware how without substance their words are,
attending wedding etc.? old habits die hard.
As to exposing scandals, even I agree with you, rest of the
population wouldn't allow, they want those jaded and jucy
stuffs, which strangely and eventually turned out to be
true! it beats the best soup operas in the world, at least I
know medias wouldn't agree with you, because that would
hurt their sales.

If KMT is so ineffective at passing the bills which is beneficial
to the people, why they are so effective at blocking other
major issues? like weapons procurement etc., don't get me
wrong again, I am not for or against this issue. I still think
cynicism plays a major part in their action and in every other
politicians' actions. They just don't want someone else get all
the credits and good stuff. Team works is still very alien to
them.



Dr. T

2006-09-22 00:02 Dr.T

re: 到底是誰在亂?

......
Dr.T> where is our legislators?
Dr.T> where is our leaders?

The incidents in Kaohsiung and Tainan had nothing to do with "our legislators". All the needed laws are there.

Personally I believe all Taiwan needs is these legislators (be they KMT, PFP, or DPP) spend their 100% time on legislation, and/or check and balance against the executive branch, and
* 0% on attending (political) talk shows;
* 0% on "serving their constituents" by writing off
their traffic tickets, etc.
* 0% on "serving their constituents" by attending
their sons' wedding banquets, etc.
* and 0% on "exposing the scandals" unrelated to
their legislator status.

Dr.T> Where is Ma? 08? don't think so.

Ma has nothing to do regarding the violence incidents in Tainan and Kaohsiung.

As Taipei City Mayor he has nothing to do and should do nothing.

As KMT Chairman the best thing he can and should do is issuing a condemn statement -- but we all know how useful it is.

Dr.T> Your majority in congress is a joke, KMT.

Ha. Who doesn't believe this is a joke? KMT alone cannot handle any legislation (without support from PFP and other non-afflilated legislators), and even inside KMT legislators I wonder how many will follow Ma's words 100% without checking what the Speaker Mr. Wang says.

Dr.T> Things are so fluid now, who can be sure?



2006-09-21 13:22 楊文衛

re: 到底是誰在亂?

經由電視新聞的轉播畫面

我看到的是

一個"亟需別人憐憫"的總統!!

我真替他感到難過!!

to:河岸

送點紅色的溫暖給你
" 請靜養 " ^0^

2006-09-21 11:52 反!

re: 到底是誰在亂?

Just see how many women those mobs can hit,
Just see how Yeu can provoke his rampaging mobs,

where is our legislators?
where is our leaders?

Where is Ma? 08? don't think so.
Your majority in congress is a joke, KMT.

Things are so fluid now, who can be sure?

Dr. T

2006-09-21 11:34 Dr.T

re: 到底是誰在亂?


Subject: 誰都可以惹 不要惹辜家
__________________________

我還以為現在大家都" 還 "了就沒事

沒想到這不是辜家的規矩 真是了得~

2006-09-21 09:02 反!

re: 到底是誰在亂?


"管碧玲盼侯友宜收回懲處成命"
///////-- Since when this bitch is so concerned about police?
///////If you think about the mind setting of why she says
//////what she says, how dirty it is!
/////////I have no other words to describe this kind of bitch!
===========////////////////////////////////==============

Every single word every single action coming from those
decomposed legislator is merely a survival ploy to hypnotize
to deceive some dogs & hogs in the southern part & to
strengthen their political ambitions. In showcasing their
undying support to the Decomposed Prostituted Party and to
the corrupt family every counter measure though unlawful is
worth a try. That is the corrupted spirit of the so called Native
Political Authority. The slogan "Love Taiwan" was hidden
under the concept of "Love Taiwan Dollar".
The unemployment rate will surely surge during the year end
of 2006 & 2007 after each election returns. Imagine how
many green worms will loss their political post and as a
consequence thereof creates social problems and unrest.
When the world of politics has no room for them, they will
switch back to their old style...... street rallyists/protesters,
hooligans, a recycle of life.....

2006-09-21 07:39 The Bitch name Wu

re: 到底是誰在亂?

楊文衛> (沒有人能保證我們抓到一個小偷,把他關到監獄裏,治安就會變好,所以我們還是別理會小偷了。 你同意嗎? ))

辛苦工作的老百姓> 請問警察抓人昰不是要有程序 如果沒有一個
辛苦工作的老百姓> 程序的話 只要警察說他是小偷就抓 看人就抓
辛苦工作的老百姓> 不管法律就抓人 難到這樣的治安就會好嗎 我
辛苦工作的老百姓> 想治安會更亂吧

也許吧。 不過請注意我的例子是反駁你的論點"如果我們不能保證會更好就別做事",要證明這句話的謬誤。 如果我誤會你了,請告訴我。

楊文衛> 問題是,如果這個總統貪污,老百姓什麼都不做,下一個總統
楊文衛> 有樣學樣,台灣人吃的消嗎?)

辛苦工作的老百姓> 請問之前那們多的貪官受到制裁 有的逃到法外
辛苦工作的老百姓> 現在還不是都有人照樣的有樣學樣 現在還是有
辛苦工作的老百姓> 人政府官員在貪拉 只是沒有被發現 那麼多的貪官
辛苦工作的老百姓> 來一個貪官就來一個靜坐抗議 就來一個暴動抗議
辛苦工作的老百姓> 你覺得台灣吃的消嗎

這些貪官並沒有像這次阿扁一樣引來靜坐抗議,因為要不然他們受到法律制裁,要不然他們帶著錢逃到國外,雖然也許無法把他們帶回台灣制裁追回贓款,但至少他們已經不能再貪人民的錢了。

這和阿扁不一樣。 別忘了阿扁不承認自己的錯,背棄自己對選民和支持者的承諾,還仍然要繼續做總統指揮全國,退職後還要享受優遇,你受的了嗎?

楊文衛> 你有更好的建議嗎?

辛苦工作的老百姓> 難道你覺得靜坐抗議暴力遊行是好的建議嗎???

靜坐抗議是好的建議,不能說最好(最好的是阿扁自己了斷),但也不算壞。 你能不能指出那一邊在暴力遊行呢?

楊文衛>你能提供一個負責任又能讓阿扁下臺的建議嗎?

辛苦工作的老百姓> 由司法法律判定阿扁的罪 如果司法法律有漏洞
辛苦工作的老百姓> 就要去改進 而不是一昧的舉行遊行 請問現在
辛苦工作的老百姓> 靜坐抗議他下台了嗎 請問昰不是很多人受傷

其他人已經告訴過你,阿扁做一天總統,刑法是上不了他的身的。 就別提司法法律判定阿扁的罪的事了。

2006-09-21 06:24 楊文衡

re: 到底是誰在亂?

to JohnSmith
this just shows how desperate Chen is, no doubt he is putting out the last he has, Paranoia.

Violence after violence at one side, silent protest at the other,
what does it tell to the people? use brain power. At the
mean time, we must support all necessary measures to end
this madness as soon as possible, cynicism just keeps us in
the dark and ignorant.

Using WWII German "black coat" brigade tactics is stupid and
counter productive, Chen will drink his own bitter medicine.

Be patient, my friend.

Dr. T

2006-09-21 04:48 Dr.T

re: 到底是誰在亂?


"管碧玲盼侯友宜收回懲處成命"
-- Since when this bitch is so concerned about police?
If you think about the mind setting of why she says
what she says, how dirty it is!
I have no other words to describe this kind of bitch!

2006-09-21 03:52 johnsmith

re: 到底是誰在亂?

給楊文衛

(辛苦工作的老百姓> 你說阿扁貪污的事情都是事實
辛苦工作的老百姓> 你能保證用提倡靜坐抗議讓阿扁下台之後
辛苦工作的老百姓> 人民就有好日子過了嗎 )


(楊文衛> (沒有人能保證我們抓到一個小偷,把他關到監獄裏,治安就會變好,所以我們還是別理會小偷了。 你同意嗎? ))



請問警察抓人昰不是要有程序 如果沒有一個程序的話 只要警察說他是小偷就抓 看人就抓 不管法律就抓人 難到這樣的治安就會好嗎 我想治安會更亂吧




(辛苦工作的老百姓> 難道每一次來一個總統貪污就來一個遊行抗議
辛苦工作的老百姓> 台灣人吃的消嗎 )

(楊文衛>>>問題是,如果這個總統貪污,老百姓什麼都不做,下一個總統有樣學樣,台灣人吃的消嗎?)

請問之前那們多的貪官受到制裁 有的逃到法外 現在還不是都有人照樣的有樣學樣 現在還是有人政府官員在貪拉 只是沒有被發現 那麼多的貪官 來一個貪官就來一個靜坐抗議 就來一個暴動抗議 你覺得台灣吃的消嗎
為什麼不走司法法律管道處理呢 如果司法法律有漏洞就需要改 而不是
每一次有總統貪污或是政府官員貪污就來一個靜坐抗議佳暴力遊行


(辛苦工作的老百姓> 一定要靜坐抗議遊行才能讓阿扁下臺嗎 )))

楊文衛> 你有更好的建議嗎?

.難道你覺得靜坐抗議暴力遊行是好的建議嗎???

((辛苦工作的老百姓> 但我還是反對靜坐 遊行 因為施明德 跟范立達的
辛苦工作的老百姓> 提倡靜坐抗議不負責任的行為

楊文衛>你能提供一個負責任又能讓阿扁下臺的建議嗎?


由司法法律判定阿扁的罪 如果司法法律有漏洞 就要去改進 而不是一昧的舉行遊行 請問現在靜坐抗議他下台了嗎 請問昰不是很多人受傷

2006-09-21 02:56 辛苦工作的老百姓

re: 到底是誰在亂?

to smswjj,
correction, classical music not classic.

to riverbank,
I hope you are not ill because of blogging too much, anyway
get well soon, and wish you all the best.

No matter which camp you belong, we all admit current
situation is just too much, it could go to the worst before
getting better.

I am glad former President, Lee, led a contingent group to
negotiate with Chen, negotiation is good. Before U.S. and
China established formal relation in the 70s, from the
beginning of 50s they negotiated, overtly and covertly, at least
over 160 times. Why our leaders have to be so cynical,
always maintain an attitude of scornful negativity, you are
wrong, I am right, why should I give you that honor to be
famous, and so on and so forth. Cynicism blinds people,
negates progress, we need team players not stars, look what
star we get so far? awful isn't it?

We should all stand behind any measure that could alleviate
current situation, give them blessing, may be they could work
something out, isn't this also the strategy that Mr. Shih
advocated?

I believe, within DPP, there are two factions, one is for anti-
corruption movement, the other is the die-hard supporter of
Chen, which even the former disgusted. Violence just only
gives DPP bad reputation, the inflaming words by your
Chairman is sheer stupid, what is he thinking? can you all see
Chen's paranoia, characterized by extreme and irrational fear
of losing his postion, will bring down not only DPP also the
whole Taiwan society? just like Hitler brought German to total
destruction.

We need change fast and immediately, just can not allow such
injustice inflicted upon people any longer.

Dr. T

2006-09-21 02:19 Dr.T
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